HTC EVO 4G vs. iPhone 4 (was: so I spent about 2 hours with the EVO 4G today...)

200k download a second from a PC means you are seeing a 2-3mb download connection. You will NEVER download 3meg a second on any connection. I have a 30meg connection at home, and I see 1-1.5meg download a second.

That is the way it works.
 
I don't dispute that. By concentrating on one product, you have a polished product. I also need to add that HTC is brain dead when all they put is a 1300 mah battery on that EVO.

On the other hand, if you make mistakes on that product like Apple's, its very hard to remedy the design faults until next year.

If HTC screws up in one model, two months later, they have another model that fixes it up. This is the China-Taiwan model of success---Asus, Acer, MSI and so on, all use this same business strategy. And for that they are extremely successful. Recent surveys point to Lenovo now having the most reliable notebooks now, followed by Asus, who used to be no. 2. Apple is no. 3. The mistakes done on the Google Nexus One design, the HTC Desire fixed it two months after. The China-Taiwan model of business and product improvement is flawed but it is relentless. Against them, Apple is on the defensive, not offensive. Understanding strategy, once you're forced in a defensive position, you are in a fundamental disadvantage.

The problem of the iPhone 4---those specs will stay the same for the entire year. For me right now, the iPhone 4 seems better than any Android phone---except when the next month or the month after that. The 960x640 resolution is brilliant, but the 3.5" screen where phones are hitting with 4 to 5", lack of transreflective coatings (like what Nokia N series and Blackberry uses) and AMOLED will haunt it till next year. And again, no Verizon, no Sprint, and no physical keyboard.

Physical keyboards still matters. For a supposedly touch screen platform, where many of its hottest phones are all tousch screen models, 54% of Androids sold have physical keyboards. Blackberry, with its physical keyboards, still has an enormous market margin share over the iPhone.

Here is one thing about mobile. Unlike other computer forms, mobile is far more personal. That is, it is individually sensitive to your uniqueness. You're going to hit limits when you keep selling one model. Case in history. Henry Ford and the Ford Model T. Every Model T is uniform, and its all black. He had the perfect product, perfect mass production to keep prices low, the perfect logistic infrastructure---heck parts are so easily obtainable to fix Model Ts everywhere you go in the wide USA. The Model T is the model of functional efficiency.

Then came GM, which had introduced a wide variety of models, starting with Chevrolet, then Buick, then Oldsmobile and so on. They had style, they had coupes, they had everything. And the market shifted from Ford to GM. GM became number 1, as Ford shifted from its one Model strategy to that of many.

That's it. Cars are very personal. Each car is a reflection of the owners. The variety of individuals create the variety of cars.

This is the same case of mobile. That's why successful mobile companies, (Nokia moves 400 million each year, Samsung 270 million each year, LG over 110 million, while Apple moves 24 million) have an enormous variety of models. Because mobile is extremely personal. People want choices. They want choices on their phone design, form factor, price points, colors and carriers, and this level of choice even precedes that of having choices for apps.

Apple is okay and still is in a growth pattern because it still only has 2% of the entire handset market. I argued before it is far from its full market potential yet. But there will be limits when it starts growing big. At some point to grow further you will need more personal differentiation.

I don't go to Best Buy, but I tell you, in Asian tech malls, you see small stores, lots of small stores, where under the glass, you have dozens and dozens of different Nokias, Samsungs, LGs, HTCs, all sorts of models you will never see in the US or see in such numbers in the US. Unlocked phones. You can have a Nokia N900 here, next to it, an HTC HD2, next to it a Nokia N97 Mini, with a price tags and a smiling lady on top. You pay, you put your SIM, and you can be using the phone before you leave the mall.
 
iphone screens had light leakage and lifting as well when they came out. The backs were cracking on the plastic back ones too. So you can't say that.
 
we all know the reviewers will say the evo is better. the editors have such shallow reviews, they have been saying the iphone isnt the best even when it first came out. i find it so disapoitong that a national review site can be so short sighted, i dont thonk theve ever had the iphone win any of there comparison reviews. when they did iphone 1 vs LG Voyeger, they declared voygr the winner...they all just want to see the iphone lose and will ignore its strong points like the polished Os. yahoo.com's ONLY 2 articles about iPhpne 4 were one called "whats missing" and one about the wifi messup. its all spam if you ask me

but despite the poorly written reviews and articles, the public knows which they prefer. iphones are everywhere for a reason. and of course, yahoo responded to the sucess with a article titled "how the iphone succeds, despite not being the best" and said it was all because it has a cool factor. I mean are you kidding?

Seems like im surrounded in Anti-Apple propaganda and pure spam, coming from cnet, yahoo, digg.com...
 
i am not sure if this is how the hotspot is implemented, if it is meant to throttle DL speeds like it does but if u google slow wifi hotspot download speeds evo 4G u will see a lot of people complaining about the exact same thing.

i thought it was dividing the bandwidth between 8 possible connections so i lowered max users to 2... still the same slow speeds.

i thought it might be an encryption slowdown so i set it to WEP, WPA, and none... all the same speed.

if the hotspot is working properly and thats what it does then forget about it... i'll tether with iphone 4 at 2mbps rather than go wifi at 200kbps
 
NOPE. You really don't know the PC industry do you? This is how they conquered Macs.

Despite the myriads of PCs out there, there is only one, two or three Reference Platforms. Every PC you see is actually a reskinned version of that platform. Intel has a reference platform for the desktop, the laptop, and the netbook, and and built around specific processors and chipset combinations. AMD also has their reference platforms. Chipset makers like nVidia also have their own.

These reference platforms are tied together by commonly agreed standards, and is further more reinforced by Microsoft working on these platforms, adapting the OS and each platform must pass a suite of compatibility tests.

Change the names above from Intel to Qualcomm, from Microsoft to Google, and you get the same picture.

Every Snapdragon phone out there is based on the same Qualcomm reference platform. That's why none of them are totally new designs. That's why new phone models are being spit out every month, like the way PC models are.

In addition to that, you can focus into sets of subplatforms. For example:

Google Nexus One, HTC Desire, HTC Droid Incredible is really one subplatform.

The HTC HD2 and th EVO is subanother.

Another close family of relations - All orginated from the HTC Diamond of 2008. This includes Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Touch Dual, Touch 2, G1, Magic, Hero, Droid Eris, Diamond 2, Snap, T-Mobile Slide, Tattoo, Touch2, HD Mini, Wildfire, Aria, Legend...

Do you ever wonder why HTC Windows phones can be ROMed into Android in the first place? Because its all the same beneath.
 
thank you OP for taking the words right out my mouth. I went to a nearby sprint store 2 consecutive days ( evo launch and day after ) for a hands on comparison. right off the bat the evo did not feel as "smooth" as my iPhone as you had described, albeit the screen was much larger and IMO better quality ( could very well change at release of iPhone 4). I walked inside with high expectations, but walked out disappointed. keep in mind my comparison is based on my personal expectations and daily experiences with a smartphone. YMMV
 
If you want to deal with stocks, I think Apple maybe overvalued. Reason for that is expectations are very high. Even if Apple makes a profit and record revenues, if the number didn't meet lofty expectations, the stock can take a hit.

Nokia on the other hand, is beaten low already and the expectations aren't very high. So even with modest revenue or profit gain, its possible the stock can jump. My perception is that Nokia has short term problems, but the long term basics are quite sound. They are still retaining a large market share even with all the adversity and issues with the OS and top end line. An improvement in the OS level and among its top end line, even modestly, and sales can jump. Nokia has brand name, it has reach, deeply penetrating in all parts of the globe, a distributor network no one can match, and lots of entry level base to grow from.
 
Nokia sells thousands of cheap handsets to developing countries. They make money on volume, and will continue to do so, but their management doesn't show much competancy in developing their OS or mid range to top end line.
 
But computers are NOT CELLPHONES. The markets share some similarity, but when the top end phones cost the same Apple will have a huge advantage. Do you know the platform percentages for laptops that cost more than $1000? Macbooks RULE this market. As long as an EVO or Incredible costs the same as an iPhone, Apple won't have an issue.
 
Well like I said to be honest I too thought the EVO was just choppy. I was lambasted in the Sprint forum for even suggesting such a thing. The Nexus One I used just before was smoother. The choppy transitions could be due to Sprint bloatware, or the Sense UI not being optimized enough.

The phone will still do the HTC bar dance if you're in a low signal area, with clear sight of the Sprint tower it still went from 5-6 bars twice.
 
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