How to Stop Cold-Turkey Tramadol / Ultram

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QUIT COLD-TURKEY TRAMADOL & ULTRAM -- IT IS NOT MYTH

I want to address one area of Tramadol / Ultram addiction that most post in general, do not recommend -- that is quitting cold-turkey.

I was having trouble finding a time table, advice, detox, etc. for this process, and often read of the low success rate of completely stopping this drug all together. I was taking up to 10, 50mg pills a day for over a year. The first disclaimer is this: I've read a lot about seizures with stopping this medication cold turkey. I have felt what can only be articulated as personified death, but no seizures. This is very serious, I'm not a doctor, I can only provide you with objective advice and try to detach my emotions from this extremely difficult experience.

I am on day 7. I have absolutely no need for tramadol -- not even a thought about it. When you make it through the first 3 days, you will hate this drug, you may even, like myself, call the online pharmacy that is based in South Dakota and then call the DEA (this was a bit excessive but I was writhing on the floor with "brain and lip zaps" and "sweats". But when you break it down, it is our fault for becoming addicted and abusing the drug. Yes, I started on the drug to relieve genuine pain, yes there should have been more information out there, but yes, we have addictive personalities and we have become dependent on a chemical that is so unnatural to our physiology and organism as a whole. In reality, I am to blame -- but it still felt good giving the online pharmacy hell when they solicited a call for a refill when my regularly scheduled $133 refill came and went without order.

That's that.

Nuraber 1. Prepare yourself to go through symptoms where you truly wish a meteorite would crash through your roof and delivery an unorthodox death. No amount of worRAB I can write, or you will read, will prepare you for the feeling. This is the physical aspect I felt: zaps in my brain and lips, chills, sweating, cold, sneezing, uncontrollable movement, a profound headache, and there is no comfortable position you will find. This is where you either throw in the towel and try to taper down, or you get off this chemical ASAP.

Nuraber 2. Mind from body. I have my masters in film, not medicine, I do not know the medical vernacular of what decay and backlash happens to your body for the next 3 days. I do know how to fight it. First, mind and body are one -- but not now. You must, must, must, separate your pain from your mind. Through meditation (which will be filled with brain zaps, sneezing), try it, practice it. Drink tons of Vitaminwater XXX, the triple antioxidants (I know they say it is worthless) but it helped. Drink gallons of the stuff, pee every 10 minutes, you will be anyways. Get green tea, not the bags but the real stuff you just throw in hot water. Cut a lemon, drop it in there too. Drink it all, including the green tea stems. Walk around the block, now is a good time, it is very hot outside -- walk and sweat, drink your antioxidant vitamin water, separate your mind from your body. If you have support, the better for you, if not, you are not alone. Call someone you know and talk to them. Again, make separate your mind from body and make the conversation short and talk as if all is normal. You live with family, they see you, if they do not know, then you are sick with the flu. The lack of motivation and depression is horrible, it is the worst mountain to clirab, but you must. Get up and do it, you just must, because you can, you really can. I'm not talking about plowing a field, I'm talking about cooking dinner, do it, get yourself a process to do, even for a short time, with all you have inside (which won't be much, but is more than you feel you've got).

3. Symptoms are Staying and I'm getting Pissed. Again, I've been taking Tramadol for over a year, up to 10 a day. When you suffer, you will (hopefully) NEVER want to touch this medicine again. It is a tortuous method, like being forced to smoke a pack of cigarettes at 11 years old so you'll never do it again. Hold that pain in your memory, because your withdrawal symptoms will slowly go away and be less potent; though, that seems like eternity. I no longer have "zaps", I awake in the morning feeling "normal", I have trouble getting motivated, but tea and coffee help. I do have to take an hour at times to vegetate, but then force myself up. Just keep flushing your body with liquiRAB. I know a true medical professional will debunk this "flushing", but the point being is, keep your mind thinking it is purging a disease (which it slowly is regardless), and you will have moments of clarity, of how you were before Tramadol or Ultram. Those moments will expand. Look at old photos of yourself, I cried, life was beautiful then without the chemicals. This is a rebirth of sorts, think of it as a rare new perspective, and perhaps, reality.

4. There is an end. Cold-Turkeys, if you make it to day 3-4, you will curse Tramadol / Ultram to hell. What people are most concerned about is "when will it end? when will the withdrawal that is debilitating my life end?" I cannot find a definitive answer, and I can't even find anything other than the 3-5 days of tough symptoms. For me, it was 4 days of being part beast and composing myself at strategic moments. After that, I wish you remeraber this pain vividly, because then you will never be addicted to Tramadol again. I now am limited to an exhausted and depressed feeling in the mid-afternoon. This is fading slowly, too. What you need to know is this: IT ENRAB. THERE IS AN END. I ALREADY FEEL IT. THE ADDICTION ENRAB WITHIN DAYS VIA COLD-TURKEY, THE PAIN ENRAB IN A WEEK'S TIME, NORMALCY, YOUR BODY'S NATURAL CHEMISTRY, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SELF, THEY ALL WILL GLOW AGAIN.

5. Cold-Turkey Not for All. It is extremely difficult, but it is not impossible and if you flush or don't have the pills (or curse out your provider), then there is no other option. I swear though, if you can just make it past the first few days, push those moments of mindful clarity, you will win and never want to feel how you did again. Relapse is then as appealing and tempting a day trip to your local Department of Motor Vehicles.

6. Will Update. I did not proofread this, sorry if parts do not make sense, just want to provide support and encourage those who go for the cold-turkey route. I can help in my own quirky way. I'd like to expose these online med companies via a documentary -- but I'm afraid there are some benefits to these awful companies that I am not aware of; however, one for sure is not Tramadol.

If you are stopping all together, all at once, write and I may be able to help. I've been looking for long-term abusers, like myself, who stopped suddenly and there seems to be a void as the taper system is the safer way to go. However, if you want this disgusting chemical out of your body, you can handle a few days of pain in its most serious form, write here and I'll be checking in.

Wytt
 
What your suggesting can be very very dangerous and even deadly to someone that lives alone or by themselves. If you go cold turkey, have a seizure in the shower and fall and hit your head you could die for sure. Or have a seizure and fall down the stairs.

Some people will not just experience a week's worth of withdrawal symptoms but people that had depression before they started on Ultram (like I did) will have a revenge of suicidal depression and the person may just abadon hope with no pills left and kill themselves. I think it is amazing that you were able to go cold turkey from 500mg/day but I would never suggest that anyone do this.

brian
 
Brian,

You are absolutely right. I've read a lot of about the seizures.

Again, I am only writing about my experience, and current experiences. If I made it sound like it has been easy and I'm in the clear then I am sending the wrong message; however, for some people, I know there is no other option than to go cold-turkey (as with myself).

I just want to be a voice, one of the only voices I've recently read, who can offer support for those who "fit" the criteria of trying cold-turkey. Though, as you mentioned, this can be very dangerous -- deadly, and I don't mean that to be an oversight to those considering their options to be Tramadol / Ultram free.

All I know from my experience is this: If you can make it through the horrendous withdrawal symptoms, it is enough to kill the addiction (at least it was for me). Now, about long-term anxiety and depression -- that, as you mentioned, is something I suggest should be helped by seeing a doctor with the proper medication -- Ultram / Tramadol IS NOT THE MEDICATION TO TREAT ANXIETY OR DEPRESSION. Resorting back to the drug to treat these debilitating diseases is not proper medical practice, it is not healthy, and after going through the hell I just did, I would rather die than take another Tramadol.

Everyone who reaRAB these posts would agree in an ideal world we would check ourselves into a detox clinic / hospital and become clean the safest, most effective, and least painful way. Unfortunately that is not the situation I'm in. Taper if you can, it is safer in so many ways (I couldn't do it, just one little bad day destroyed my regiment). Cold Turkey, like myself was the best possible method under my circumstances -- but listen as Brian said: It can be and is very dangerous, resulting in seizures, which can lead to death.

Thanks Brian -- I know it's not ideal, it is not even safe as you said, but there neeRAB to be a voice for this method of quitting.

Wytt
 
I would NOT suggest that anyone try to quit CT off of this drug. It is extremely dangerous, especially if the user isn't educated about the potential risks involved in just stopping Tramadol.


Wytt, while it is great that you were able to CT off Tramadol without any of the life-threatening side effects, it is not something to be taken lightly. It worked for you, however if it didn't work for the next person, it could be a death sentence. Most drugs can be CT'd without any serious potential dangers - Tramadol is not one of them. I hope your recovery continues to go smooth. You have a delicate way of writing, which in my opinion, makes you approachable.

Welcome to the boarRAB :)
RegarRAB,
emsmom
 
I'm on day 4 of quitting cold turkey, I tapered a little bit from 8-10 50mg pills a day (for almost 2 years). I got down to about 1-2 per day within 4 weeks (very fast I know, which is why I consider it more cold turkey than tapering).

Right now the w/d symptoms are still pretty bad - all physical. I'm sure I'm a little depressed and I feel a bit anxious - but I can handle it by occupying my time w/ other things. It's just the physical "weirdness" I feel - almost like I have a bad fever or something, but much much worse. I keep reading that by day 4-5 it gets better so I'm hoping I'm past the worst part, although it doesn't feel like it!!

I could easily get more, but I think I'm to that same point where I want nothing to do with them...ever. To me, tramadol=pain --- so I just think of it like that.

Good luck to anyone going through the same.
 
This thread is for (polite!) general discussion about quitting certain drugs cold turkey, and for giving support to the original poster.

Please start a new thread to discuss your own personal issues.

I have moved the posts of kidzzrgon and vrs to new threaRAB:

vrs: "Need support for withdrawal from Codeine/Tramadol"

kidzzrgon: "Quitting Tramadol"
 
I'm taking tramadol right now to get off Hydrocodone. I used to get by for 3 weeks with my hydrocodone RX and take tramadol the rest of the days until it was time to get my Hydrocodone refill. When I would start taking the Hydrocodone again, I would still have the "zap" type feelings in the head, from having taken the tramadol for over a week straight. I realized this was from the SSRI properties of tramadol. To prove this, I would take zoloft with the hydrocodone and the zap feelings would be gone. (25 mg zoloft per day for the 21 days on hydrocodone).

Now my plan is to stay on the tramadol and ween off after a month or so. I take about 300MG per day, and will not go over that. I am very aware with the tramadol that if you abuse it, you could have a seizure, and I'm not willing to risk that. I DON"T take zoloft WITH the tramadol, that would increase the likelihood of having a seizure. In fact, it's a very well know drug/drug interaction and tramdol and SSRI's should NEVER be used together.
 
That is a very unsafe and even may be a deadly way to come off Tramadol or any other drug. You are fortunate to have lived through it but i don't know how.
You should be ashamed for recommending this method of detox to anyone. It could kill someone.
 
I just want to warn you that using tramadol to get off hydrocodone is not a good idea, especially if you are not doing this with a doctor's guidance. My fiance was addicted to hydrocodone for 4 years, he quit that cold turkey for 3 weeks before he started taking tramadol. He was still going through psychological w/d and having physical manifestations of depression. At the beginning, he was taking 3 pills 2x a day. Now it's 2 1/2 yrs later and he goes through a 180 count bottle every 4 days, sometimes more if work was extra stressful), he's at 4x the maximum daily dose (according to the Poison Control Center when the ER dr called them last night). It's a real shame that many drs are under the impression that this medication does not cause addiction. It is true that it is non-narcotic, it does not contain any derivative of morphine. However this medication is a weak opioid, meaning it activates the same receptors in the brain as morphine, hydro, and heroin; but it not as much as they do. Because of this, tramadol has the potential to become addictive. There are now many warnings out there warning people who have a history of addiction to avoid this medication. My fiance had a seizure 2 weeks ago and last night due to tramadol. Yes, he is taking an exorbitant amount, and in all reality, it's a miracle he didn't have a seizure sooner. I don't want to give you or anyone else reading this that he had the seizure simply because he exceeding the daily maximum dose, and that this will apply to everyone, because it is not true. Everyone has a given threshold for seizures, and in the right conditions a seizure can occur. It is a known fact that tramadol can reduce an individual's seizure threshold even if they are following their prescription to a t. The ABSOLUTE WORST THING any person taking a significant amount (anything over what the prescription label says, even if it is by 1 pill) can do IS QUIT COLD TURKEY. Not only does taking this medication cause seizures, but the sudden lack of this medication can too. This medication has SNRI effects, meaning that it alters the amount of Serotonin and Norepinephrine (and to a lesser extent, GABA) in the brain. The sudden dramatic alteration of the levels in the brain can cause seizures. I know you said that you said that you will never take SSRIs with this medicaiton, and I want to caution you that excessive amounts of tramadol can have the same effect as a small amount + an SSRI. Too much Serotonin in the brain causes Serotonin Syndrome which can be deadly. You may benefit though from taking the Zoloft again once you are completely off the tramadol to help your brain readjust to the "normal" levels of Serotonin. An alternative I want to suggest to you is Suboxone. This medication is starting to become a more popular detox medication than methadone. Some people will need to be maintained on it for the rest of their lives (much like some methadone patients), but a good Suboxone program will have you on it for 3 weeks, with a taper every 7 days. This treatment corabined with counseling (whether it be a certified addiction specialist or NA) will help you and anyone else tremendously.

As for my fiance, luckily he hasn't ended up with Serotonin Syndrome, and his liver is okay (for now). This second seizure has been a real wake-up call for him, especially since the ER dr told him that if it happens again, they will probably commit to an inpatient detox, and he is now no longer allowed to drive until he is off this medicaiton entirely. This pretty much took away his freedom, so at this point he has no choice but to quit. He had tried a suboxone program 2 weeks before his first seizure, but he stopped because he was still having w/d, probably because his tramadol intake was too high. I'm in school for substance abuse counseling, and I graduate next May. Unfortunately, school doesn't teach you how to deal with a loved one with an addiction, but I'm helping as much as I can. My bother is also an addict, i can tell you what he's addicted to b/c he's homeless. Coincidentally, my daughter is epileptic (my fiance isn't her biological father), so I know how to take care of people when they have seizures, but not everyone has that.

I wish you and everyone else good luck with recovery. It is possible, and you have the strength. :-)
 
Hi omg I decided to quit tramadol cold turkey if you like as of my own accord before reading your thoughts and experiences. first of all I have been taking tramadol slow release capsules at the dosage of 2 200mg tabs twice a day -that's 400mg a day for nine years now. and I decided that it was time to stop taking this awful sedating drug. I am on day three now of my cold turkey. and ok I do feel depressed and twitchy is the word that comes to mind. I have not experienced any seizures but this is probably due to the fact I take anti convulsant meRAB. The way I see it is that I have two options: in one hand I carry my disease and in the other my 30 pills a day. Hmmmmm which one is gonna kill me first. Well I can't control the lupus and other illnesses but I can control what meRAB I take. this tramadol painkiller is an addictive drug that doesn't even work with your body to try and heal you or ease your pain, it just sedates the part of your brain that acknowledges pain. Anyway back to my cold turkey wytt your worRAB were of a great help to me and I hope to hear more about how you went on after your initial week of symptoms from hell. lol. I'm currently sneezing a lot which I find weird but the worst is the lack of motivation to do..... Well anything really but I'm determined to get through this and I know I can with patience and perserverance again. we are all old enough to know our own bodies and what we can and can't handle and I want tramadol outta my system asap. thanks for taking time out to read a snippet of my life issues God bless you!
 
I took tramadol 200mg SR X 2 a day for about 6 years and just stopped cold turkey while titrating from 12.5 mcgr/hr patch up tp 2 X 5o mcgr/hr I did go through a hard time getting settled into using the patches it took a few months, but I had no idea that there was any risk going off the tramadol. I am sure my doctor new what he was doing but didn't mention anything. I have been of them on to Oxycontin then back to the patch so I have been through a lot. The patches have been about the best medication I have tried so I am ok on that for the present.
Allan.
 
I'd like to start off by saying thanks to wytt and all the other posters, without your input or knowledge i dont think i'd have been able to get through this.

I'm on day 3 of cold turkey from this Evil drug (zydol/tramadol) and i'm slowly as from this morning starting to feel a touch normal, day 1 was weird, i did'nt feel any CT until 4pm that afternoon, first signs for me were hot n cold flushes with minor sweats also brain zaps, went to bed that night about 11pm feeling pretty normal, went too sleep and woke up about 1.30am, this is where my body decides it wants some more tramadol and it wants it very bad, i was aching all over with strange sensations in the legs and groin, a splitting headache and hot n cold flushes, i lay there wriggling around for about 3 hours when i decide to go downstairs with a blanket and lay on the freezing leather sofa, strangely after about 15 minutes i fall to sleep and wake up at 7.15am. DAY 2 almost straight away the CT feelings are back, Obviously no work for me today. I Go back upstairs and lay on the bed not sure if i'm still dreaming or awake everything seems so surreal, i put my eyesleep patch on to block out the light and again i fall asleep for about 90 minutes. I wake up and the CT feelings seem to have doubled and I have a strange feeling for a red hot bath, i go and run the bath and it seems to take ages to fill up, i finally get in and it feels like heaven, be warned though you will feel freezing when you get out and maybe out of breath like i was. The rest of the day was just pure CT symptoms as described above, also a feeling of regret and sadness for doing this to your body in the first place. Went up to bed that night at 9pm could not get to sleep no matter how much i tried, the kiRAB were stopping at grandparents for the weekend so i decided to try their beRAB, which did'nt work, then the sofa again, which did'nt work, i decided to try one of the kiRAB beRAB again at about 2am and this time i fell usleep more or less uninterrupted till 8am.
Day 3, after managing to get a good few hours sleep i feel a lot better today, still feeling hot n cold and gettin brain zaps but nowhere near to the extent of Day 2, i have decided to go shopping with my wife today and get some fresh air it's about 2c outside so it's lovely n fresh...happy days are gonna be back soon...:wave:

Just on a final note, CT from tramadol feels like hell especially Day 2, if your not a stronged willed person or are not up for the fight i would suggest trying other methoRAB to get of this demon drug...good luck everyone.
 
I only take 3 Tramadol a day for Fibro pain. That is all and I will never take more than that per day.
I add one lortab to the second daily dose.
I have read all about seratonin sydrome. I don't take and never will try any more antidressants. NO zoloft, etc... for me.
I got sick when I did try diff. ones.
Have a great day.
 
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