How to improve 82?

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Careful, even BEV themselves took that dish out of their inventory! Today I was told by a BEV guy I know that he tried the 24 and it wasn't great, just as HDTV101 said below.
 
You need to find a Direct-TV, or Dish version (there are a ton of non-branded ones out there).

The StarChoice ones use a different LNB mount, and it'll be near impossible to get the Dish LNB on there (it's a round clamp type design).
 
I have had expressvu before and had a single LNB pointing at 91 for ages without issue. I just replaced the dish with a 20" and the 91 is still great..82 is the issue. The tree is about 100 feet away. So I will attempt to move the dish a foot to the right and see if that makes a difference. Hope so. The HD channels are what I PVR the most.

But I think the 9200 will be more enjoyable then the SA8000 I had with Rogers..so I don't want to switchback.
 
Bev did not take the 24" dish out of inventory. I personally just ordered one last week and it arrived yesterday via Purolator. They call it an "upgrade" kit and by the way - it works great in improving the signal.
 
Hi Stamp....fellow Delta type person.

If you go here, click on the YELLOW Product box in the top left
then chose Antennas for Satellites you will see a 30" Winegard
with dual LNBF's. There is even a Channel Master 36".

http://eyeinthesky.net/cgi-bin/db.cgi

I'm going to be looking hard at that Winegard 30"!!!

FaxCap (Ken)
 
Thanks for the reply.
I've been an Expressvu subscriber for 5 years and when I bought the 9200 and had to install the extra cables, I decided to remove my current dish from the roof, even though it had a clear view of the south - southwest sky. One of the cables was causing problems and needed to be replaced and I didn't want the chore of trying to hide (for cosmetic purpose) 4 cables. Also the roof is going to need to be re-shingled in the next year or two. I wanted to install it at the rear of my house where my old DTV dish was located. It had a clear shot for that bird but it was doubtful if it would hit the Nimq's due to a large pine tree. I installed the new dual dish by all the supplied figures and picked up the 91 at 100% in about a half a minute or less. I tried for 82 but couldn't pick it up even by swinging left and right of the 91 spot. Everything I read said if you hit the 91 then the 82 will automatically be there. I thought that the 82 might show up when everything was hooked into the multi-switch but of course that didn't work. But needing the 1 good cable off my old dish I dismantled it. When I checked for help in these forums and found lots of great info and finding out that a lot of people had trouble getting their switches to work right.I thought that was my problem. The trouble shooting advice for the switches emphasizes the need for ensuring a proper installation, everthing being plumb, measurements etc. I spent an afternoon doing all that, no 82, but my installation did need adjusting and fine tuning. Now after about 3 days of fun and frustration I decided to re-think the problem. I had always thought the yoke had the birds backwards but when reading this thread I finally clued in and your answers have confirmed my suspicions. So I spent yesterday making a makeshift Dish stand and positioned it in a spot with a clear view of the sky. Again using all the measurements, I located 91 at 100% in about a half a minute. I swung to the right- Nothing - I swung to the left and BINGO- the 82 at 93 %. So here in SW Ontario you would only need a slight height adjustment, although I am using the 24? inch Dish. What a way to blow a weeks vacation. I now feel qualified to write a chapter for Sat dish installations for Dummies. On the bright side though, I probably will use that 24 dish for a stand alone for the 82.
Thanks again for the help and great info.
 
I use a 30 inch Winegard dish for the 82 sat with the different lnb mount.
A Directv lnb fits in perfectly. In the heavy rain in Vancouver this morning the worst transponder strength was 68% and the best was 83%.
Since I went to the 30 inch dish I have not experinced any rain fade.
 
Same here....BEV sent me a 24" and I haven't had a rainout since.
I will use the 24" on 91 and a 30" on 82 when I go HDTV.

FaxCap
 
Hee hee, yet another incidence of the BEV machine slipping a cog. ;) Yesterday he called BEV and Bell's general sales organization to get a price quote and was told by both that those dishes had been pulled. I'll phone the guy I know and pass along that info because I know he's got a couple in inventory that don't show up in his stock lists. Thanks for the clarification!
 
This one for Direct TV would also work very well for Bell.

http://2000networks.com/accessories/dishes_lnbs/dish_30.html
 
It has been mentioned elsewhere, but this seems like the perfect place to mention it again. Some dish arms are the right length for a single LNBF by itself (directly on the end of the arm), and some are the right length for the Y-adapter than holds the LNBFs (an inch or two further out). Everyone knows about focusing - right? So just be aware of what you're doing when you mix and match bits and pieces.

Price check - local dealer sells 30" dishes for about $80.
 
There is more to it than just focusing but you are right. You cannot put a Y adapter from a 20" dish on any other dish and expect it to work. Adapters are available to use more than one LNB with a single LNB dish but it can take quite a bit of tweaking to get good results. It is better to buy the right dish and LNB for the job in the first place.
 
For a local supplier try,
http://www.21stcenturyent.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=21
 
A while back, I posted some vendors/prices for 24/30/36 inch dishes with LNBs for very attractive prices.

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If you order a DirectTV dish, you need to buy the LNB's. The DTV uses a square mount (instead of the Dish Network 1/2 moon mount). You can put DTV LNB's on a Dish arm, but not the other way around.
 
Hey Murph,

How did that Winegard 30" work out? I get rain fade on my 20" Dual LNBF. Can I just order that 30" dish from 21st Century and mount my Dual LNBF's on it for Nimiq 1 and 2?
 
No, the Winegard dish is a single sat dish. I left the 20" BEV dish up for sat 91.
The 30" Winegard has performed flawlessly even last week in 96kph winds and heavy-heavy rain, I've never lost signal:) . I posted the signal strengths I was getting shortly after I installed it, lowest transponder was 95, most in the 97-99 range and 5 or 6 were 100.
All I can say is if you have the room for the two dishes, and dont mind the way it looks, go for it! You wont be dissapointed!

Cheers... Murph.
 
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