How to improve 82?

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I have a 9200 with a DishPro plus Twin LNBF on a 20" dish. I have 91 at 88-91 percent on most transponders. However, I seem to be only able to get 82 at 64 percent. I have adjusted skew back and forth and had NO change on signal at all. Tried moving dish slightly up and down and 64 is the best I can get it.

Any ideas on getting improved signal on 82? Had bit of bad weather last night and the HD channels were brutal!
 
Is it possible that the view is partly obstructed? This is what happened to me and I ended up putting up a 30" dish and it has made a substancial difference.

Cheers

Pete
 
Well thanks, everyone..left all the settings on my dish...just moved it about 5 feet to the right. BANG...90% on both 91 and 82. Never took into account for the tree because I had a great signal on 91 all these years.

Thanks for the tip! Hopefully that will help with any rain/snow fade.
 
Ilyo,

Not much elsey ou can do. The DP Twin is all one piece , only other thing you could do is sacrifice some of the 91 signal. This may allow you to adjust the 82 a little stronger.
I'm using a dish 500 (20") with DP twin and have a 90 -100 % on most 91 transponders and 100% on most 82 transponders. All I did was adjust for the 91 bird and ended up having a great 82 signal that I don't even use.
Maybe pjpete is right and physically the other lnb (82) is partially blocked or the skew needs to be played with a little more. I know the skew was very touchy when I adjusted mine. I ended up keeping it exactly where the manual (BEV) said to set it .
 
ilyo,

The dishes are mass produced and quite cheap. I played with fulling on one side of the asssembly and then the other to see if I could get higher and then tightened once I did.

This increased my signal close to 10% on 82.

Crispy
 
Maybe. When standing under the dish looking out, there is a tree to the left..would that make sense as to where 82 is comparison to 91..the left?

If this is the case, the DPP Twin allows for a seperate dish to be connected to allow a 3rd satellite. Could I use this connection to add an 18" Dish directed at 82?
 
I had a weird situation with 82 when I hooked my dish up. I was able to get 91 coming in pretty clearly (off the top of my head I forget what my signal strength is), but I absolutely could not get 82 (although I had at one point pulled in 82 on the 91 LNB, but that was earlier on, and I couldn't get both of them at the same time).

Since I had to return the ladder I was borrowing, and my rush to get the dish up had been because of hockey season starting, and I could still get Centre Ice on 91, I figured I'd just activate the receiver and worry about my 82 signal later on.

To make an already long story short, I put everything away, followed the rest of the setup intructions, waited for the receiver to reset and download software. It ran a check switch and, to my astonishment, i suddenly had 82 at about 74% (in addition to the 91 signal somewhere in the 80s).

I guess there was a software error in sensing the 82 signal that was fixed with the reset and/or check switch. But I was sure frustrated that I'd wasted so much time trying to make it work. At some point I suppose I should get the ladder back and see if I can get a better 82 signal. But mid-70s is not bad so I'm not in any particular rush.

ilyo, I'm glad to hear you finally got your 9200! How long after I reported getting mine did yours come in to The Brick? Did they give you any discount for the hold-up (I didn't push it since the woman I'd been dealing with had gone above and beyond for me on a different purchase--so I figured it balanced out).

Steve
 
With Dish software, what you are proposing will work. However Bell receivers are not designed to get signals from 3 orbital locations. It may work, it may not.

If you do try it, keep in mind you will need a DP LNB for the 18" dish.

And yes, standing behind the dish looking up at the sky, the 82 bird is on your left.

How far away are those trees? What's the possibility of moving the dish up a couple of feet? The farther away the trees are, the less you will need to move the dish up to make a difference. Just remember that trees grow, so move it up as much as you can.

Also, keep in mind that if it is trees, then as soon as the leaves are gone you should be OK for the winter.
 
And yes, standing behind the dish looking up at the sky, the 82 bird is on your left.


Wouldn't it be onthe right?
 
82 degrees is further east than 91, right.

So, when you face south, is east left or right?
 
Well actually ended up cancelling about 2 days before you got yours..then heard you got it..so I called back and there was one left at the depot here in Ontario, so she arranged for me to pick it up. Same deal, really nice sales lady and I knew it wasn't her fault..everyone is waiting on stock from Bell..so didn't push discount.

Had same weird switch issue...using DPP Twin..first re-alignment showed no 91...and under 91 screen showed locked on 82 wrong sat...did a check switch and bam..both were there.

Steve, I imagine you are enjoying your 9200 as much as me!
 
But why is the 91 on the left side of the Y adapter that holds the lnb
and the 82 is on the right side?
 
I have separate dishes for 91 and 82 with dual LNBs feeding into an SW44. The 91 dish is an 18 incher and does great even in heavy rain, but the 82 disk is a 20 incher and I get bad rain fade here in the Vancouver area, sometimes losing about 20 points on the signal scale on some of the weaker transponders. I sure wish I could find a 24 inch (or even larger!) dish for 82. I've checked the local Buy 'N Sell newspaper online and I've phoned around a bit but it seems that the 24 inch and larger dishes are hard to find out here. :(
 
If I was you I'd just go to a 30 inch dish for the 82. You can find 30 inch dishes everywhere since they are widely used for FSS Ku satellites.

You get a little more than a 2dB improvement in signal-to-noise ratio with the 24" dish and nearly a 5dB improvement with a 30" dish. This improvement cannot be converted into units of so-called "signal strength" displayed by your receiver's signal test function.

With a 24" dish, moisture on your signal path will have to be about 75% denser to cause the same signal disruptions as it does with your 18" dish, and with a 30" dish, the rain would have to be nearly 3 times denser. In Florida, where the rain is very intense, it means that the signal will be lost a little later and come back a little earlier. For most of the rest of the country, an increase of 2 to 5dB in signal-to-noise ratio will virtually eliminate the effects of rain fade.
 
if you have standard 18 inch dish with one lnb and it's pointed to 91. You are standing behind the dish: 82 is to the left. and you have to increase elevation to get it

if you have 20 inch dish with two lnb's and why are lnb's 'inverted':
when you stand behind the dish, 82 is still on the left side and 91 is on the right.
so when signal from 82 comes in to the dish, in bounces off in "V" shape and goes to the lnb on right. same for 91. is comes from right side and bounces off in "V" shape to the lnb on the left
 
For some parts of the country, you are wrong. In the Maritimes, you have to increase elevation.

Here in the West, you have to decrease elevation.
 
Its a 24" dish, but here another option..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5819532376&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
 
Great info! Thanks, I'll start looking. I've seen some of those big round ones around my neighbourhood, some that even say StarChoice on them. I take it they're able to hold a BEV dual LNB? I can modify it in my workshop if needed, I suppose.
 
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