How many ride without the crash bar?

My engine guard saved my leg from being ripped off when I hit a deer at 65mph in the rain. I didn't lay it down, but I would go engine guard, but I would say it is more of a personal preferance.
 
Smart man...:-)


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Yeah, sounds like this comment about scraping the engine guards on a curve came from an inexperienced rider. Never heard of anyone scraping a crash bar and lifting the rear tire off the ground. If you ever do scrape the engine guard first bud lemme know, and try to get pics. Look at the bike and you can see what would hit the ground first.
 
You will never get down far enough to drag the bar,the pipes,kickstand,foot boards,and primary covers will prevent this from happening.Ask me how I know,these parts listed are all wear items in my book.The first time your bike does go down you will not be a happy camper for all the damage that will occur.Your choice and for your own reasons.
 
Since I have the luxury of having an '07 SG in the garage that is tore all to hell from a 50mph impact with a deer (I did not go down), I am going to go out there, lay it down, and settle the assanine claim that one can drag the crash bar and unload the rear tire. The outer rear corners of my floorboards are ground down to a sliver from riding, not from any laydowns. The floorboard mounts also have been scraped significantly. When cornering the bagger and the floorboards drag, this is a cue that you are near the point of no return. When the floorboard mounts drag and start unloading the suspension, this is a cue that you are REALLY close to the point of no return. When the crash bar drags, this is a cue to prepare for impact, as you are already well beyond the point of no return and getting ready to compare the Rockwell hardness of your beloved scoot and, more than likely, your own body against the Rockwell hardness of the pavement on which you were formerly riding contently upright on. I will post pics of my scientific experiment if my techno illiterate self can figure out how to get them from my Crackberry to this forum.
 
Well, not to stir up any more argument but I've ridden dyna's for years and years with no crash bar. If it's some kind of sin to take it off of a touring bike, why isn't a sin to not have one on a softail or a dyna? AND DON'T SAY "WELL THOSE ARE SMALLER BIKES". They still weigh more than 600lbs and you cant hold them off of your legs while sliding down the road. I know this first hand.
 
I'm just speaking for myself, the dynas and softails have no faring or hard bags made of plastic that cost lots of money if wrecked when the bike falls over. As many times as guys get of and forget the stand or lose their balance while sitting still you would spend thousands, I'm sure insurance companies don't like that. As for a high speed lay down its not the fall that gets ya its what you hit. So with or without you are screwed.
 
Ill buy that for sure since I crashed my RG about three weeks ago. I had the crash bars for the bags on but not the main one. I had to replace the fairing. So it makes sense from a finacial stand point. Just seems like most opinions on here are more about safety. I was just trying to make a point.
 
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