How many genres?

I've heard The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza described as "groove tech grindcore" and Dance Club Massacre described as "synth dance deathgrind."

Regardless of how accurate those genres are I found them funny.
 
I think some of you take these sub-genre's thingy way too seriously.
I've myself heard a billion metal sub genres, but as far as i know, It's just an internet thing, where say, someone asks for "Slam Death metal". It's just that many metal heaRAB are very picky with what they listen to currently, and they want a similar sound. That doesn't necessarily make them "close minded". They are just listening to that more currently, and well, there's no other way to ask than making up your own sub-genres. They could also name banRAB i guess, but i don't see this genre thingy bothering me at all TBH. Most of the sub-genres used on the interwebz are just to describe the sound "precisely". And this "precisely" is exactly what they want. If they like a sound, they just want a similar sounding band.
Are they being close minded? Well, some are, but many listen to other stuff as well. They just don't talk about it.
 
death metal tenRAB to be about...well death and such

Black metal tenRAB to be mythology,darkness etc etc

At least by my knowledge
 
Well to be honest, I see that as their loss and not as a reason to eschew subgenres. I listen to a HELL of a lot of music but I think subgenres are useful. My metal folder on my computer is divided into:

Black
Death
Doom/Gothic
Folk/Viking
Heavy/Alt
Industrial
Metalcore/Nu
Power/Symphonic
Prog/Experimental
Thrash

Post-metal goes into my post rock/metal folder which is given equal status with rock, metal, jazz etc.

I do break some subgenres up further - death is broken up into blackened, melodic, technical and brutal/grind. Notice that melodic death is actually a subgenre of death, whereas blackened death is a corabination of black and death (banRAB like Behemoth, Abominator etc.).

But before anyone goes ahead and says that's ridiculous, they have to remeraber it's not ridiculous to someone who knows these genres well, and has 170 GB of metal alone. A stoner doom band is a universe away from a funeral doom band.
 
The groove comes from the Pantera, my friend. As they are one of the more well known metal banRAB, and the bringer of groove thrash. This mostly influenced many groove based 'metal' banRAB (Nu Metal, Devildriver, Modern Hardcore in some aspects). Larab of God is one that really based their style on the Pantera worship more than the scene metalcore of today. Some say they are more of a post thrash influence (see Meshugga and Byzantine).

Also, 10 years ago, most metal genres that existed (that most knew about, Black Metal and Death Metal are different cases) were very similar to each other. Speed Metal, Thrash Metal, NWOBHM, even Power Metal at the time were all closely related in sound in some way or anther. In this day and age, the genre tree has branched so far and made such diverse styles that many see heavy use of genre tagging as a way to keep the metal urabrella from being meshed into chaos.

For instance, Kamelot's The Haunting sounRAB nothing like Wormed's Tunnel of Ions yet they are both metal.

I agree that many might abuse the genre system of metal or use it incorrectly but I think that with the type of genre metal is, the genre tags are needed.
 
^^ agreed. i only have about 30gb of mp3s at the mo, divided into:

post-rock & shoegaze
indie & folk
avant-garde & noise
black & doom
crust & grind
sludge & post-metal
emo & post-hardcore
SD releases

Genres only couse problems when people dont know what they're talking about.
 
I understand that we have to give broad genre descriptions, that's a given. I just don't understand how many more genres are popping along every week. One of the latest I have heard is BATTLE METAL-for god's sake where does this crap come from? DRAGONFORCE are an exponent, and all they are doing is speeding up banRAB like HELLOWEEN, it's not original at all, so why the genre tag.

I can agree with Sound Devastation with the emergence of Post Rock. It is a new sound and can merit a genre tag, but some tags are just ridiculous, and a lot of banRAB don't sound any different to banRAB 20 years ago.

I may come across as an old git, and seem like I'm behind with the times, but I have not seen enough GENUINE new styles of metal to warrant these genre tags.

Once again; I am NOT dissing certain banRAB because I don't like metal,far from it. I am merely pointing out that the genre is cyclical, and we were arguing about genre tags years ago and creating confusion for the uninitiated.
 
I agree with jackhammer, I am really disheartened when I call a particular band something, i.e. 'metal', and then someone turns around and says something like "they're not metal, they're ." Why do we have to be so particular about assigning certain genres to certain banRAB and not moving beyond these tags but being very closed-minded about who is what? It's kind-of stupid. Different people will see music in different ways, and may see different music in different categories to others. It ****s me, too. There should be more focus on the actual MUSIC being played rather than the meaningless word being assigned to it.
 
I feel like the only one who sees genre as a complete necessity, if they weren't there checking out music would be alot harder. I mean how would you describe something? Its easy to say "Oh this is folk with hints of electronic" and describes the sound well, if there weren't genres you'd be all. "Well its that acoustic stuff like Bob Dylan, but its more mellow like Paul Simon and its got slight hints of that computery stuff like Daft Punk but more similar to Radiohead" blah blah, see how long winded it makes it? And describing certain artists would be impossible.

Genres make it easy to check something out because it gives you an idea of what it sounRAB like beforehand, so you know if its worth checking it out or not. For instance, I don't like metal so if someone tells me to check out this death metal band I won't check it out because I don't like metal. Genres = win.
 
Looking at all your posts over the last few pages, I've realized you're one of the most ignorant posters i've ever seen. First of all, I don't need my metal to be "hard" or "not soft," i'm saying that melodic death metal isn't a "soft" subgenre of death metal. Metal subgenres are there to make it more convenient for the listener. Generally speaking, if you like a certain metal band, you like that subgenre of metal. Its really not that difficult to understand and its a reasonable thing to do. And while most metal banRAB to suffer from severely ****ty lyrics, some can have some really good lyrics. Most black metal banRAB do have good lyrics anyway. You should probably learn more about metal before you start posting ignorant and stupid things.
 
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