How did TDK get classed as a 12A

The 89 Batman was the first 12 certificate film, i.e. no one under the age of 12 admitted. 12A, where children under 12 are admitted as long as they are with an adult, followed later.

Whilst the Bourne Identity was the first 12A film, it was actually the film Spiderman, that largely led to the introduction of the 12A certificate. You can read about it here.
 
*says in tv voiceover voice*
The Dark Whopper.............inspired by the Dark Knight!!!!

Since its been over ten years since ive been in a Burger King,do they give you little toys in their happy meals? :p
 
Keith Vaz doesn't know his butt from his elbow. The guy is just a complete idiot who will hear any controversy and slap his name on it. He's an excellent MP in that regard. :D
 
Exactly, spot on. To be honest, many casual cinema goers (infact a lot) went to see TDK simply becuase of the huge hype. I'm guessing your sister failed to watch Batman Begins? If she did, she would have noticed the film was clearly aimed towarRAB an older audience.

And like someone else said, the film is more a 'pschological thriller with the lead dressing up as a bat' rather then a comic book movie.

If a movie is rated '12A' then it's the parents responsibily to watch it (without their children) or even do some light research on the film to see what it may involve. Had she had watched BB, she'd relise TDK would follow suit in the films style and content.
 
I'm going to see it tonight (so no spoilers please! :D) but having already seen some photos of a certain someone's face I wonder how it gets a 12A as well. Also, considering the reviews I've read it doesn't seem like the type of film younger children will find interesting anyway.
 
Shelves?! What utter rot! There were only 3 Child's Play movies at the time of the murder. Were the shelves very small?

Jesus wept!

There was never any credible link between the Bulger murder and Child's Play 3 nor any other "video nasty". In fact, Merseyside Police Inspector Ray Simpson said the Officers who worked on the case had "looked at all the videos in their houses and checked their lists of rentals from the shop. We did not find Child's Play 3, nor did we find anything in the list that could have encouraged them to do what they did. If you are going to link this murder to a film, you might as well link it to The Railway Children".
 
They have some dodgy crap pirate copy of BB. I don't think she's paid attention to it. The irony is, I said to her she should take her son to the cinema to watch TDK rather than exposing him to a crap knock off copy that was shot through a blizzard.
 
As has been pointed out, Batman (89) was a 12 at the cinema, and the first to receive that certification. When it went to video the closest applicable rating was 15 (as 12 didn't exist for home video until 2002).

12 has since been replaced by 12A at cinemas, as mentioned earlier.
 
I agree. I think they miscalculated on this movie and gave the wrong rating.

But anyways...... It is what it is now. We just have to deal with it. And besides, with all the publicity over its darkness.... Parents must be well aware now that this isn't for the kiddies.

Honestly..... What has happened to parents in this country? Can't they say no to their kiRAB anymore? Are they afraid of their little angels?

When I was a kid (not too long ago)... A no was a no! And if i questioned the "no" answer..... Well lets just say I had to run as fast as I could.;)

It seems to be a lot of people don't understand what a 12A is.... I mean it is fairly simple for me to understand.

Let us not go down the road of censorship.
 
TDK is just the latest in a line of films with unsuitable content for children being rated by the BBFC so that children can see them - this is perhaps the worst instance so far, simply because it has such mass appeal.

I think the BBFC are missing/ignoring their purpose as the public see it - which is the protection of children and other vulnerable people. If everyone can see a 12A cert film, then it should be suitable for everyone. Simple as that. If the BBFC don't understand that parents want/need simple & effective certification, they need to think again.

The BBFC are also (increasingly) not playing by their own rules. I can't find the quote, but they've always said they classify for themes as much as content. I can't think of a mainstream movie as dark as TDK below 15 certificate EVER. *** Waits to be corrected ***



Looking at the BBFC's bullet points, I can see all of those in TDK to a greater or lesser extent. Some of it is implied, but obviously that still contributes to the overall theme.

I'm happy with the principle of a 12 certificate, but I just don't see the need for it to be open to all ages. And I certainly don't see the need to give in to pressure (from parents or the industry) to have a 12A certificate just because the Americans have PG-13.
 
Actually, 12 didn't exist for home video until 1994, not 2002.

Batman (1989) was the first film to get a 12 rating at the cinema, but as the 12 rating was not introduced for videos at that time, was given a 15 on video instead of cutting it and releasing it as PG.

Paddy :D
 
This Batman is not about 'right and wrong' If you think like that... then you're Harvey Dent! Their are greater subtleties going on.

Just to be clear: The books "The Killing Joke" and "The Dark Knight Returns" were labeled for 'mature readers' and were only sold in specialist comic shops (of which there were/are very few). So at the time 'kiddies' could not get to them.
 
See, this is why I believe the old 12 rating should be brought back, because some parents think that just because children under 12 can watch a film it is automatically suitable for children of all ages. Even four years old.
 
:rolleyes: To be honest I think it's utterly pathetic to rate films depending on language. I mean, what intrinsic harm is there in the F-word? KiRAB hear it all the time in the playground, and to be honest only people who've been living under a rock get offended by it.
 
*coughs* 16 years ago?.................i salute you for remembering a meal you ate 16 years ago lol. These companys must get a good profit for doing these kinRAB of things. And all it does is help the promotion for the movie.Millions of people eat in these restaraunts,especially kiRAB.
 
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