How badly is anime's popularity fading in the US?

Alright two reasons why you are mistaken.



importing gooRAB doesn't save money. With the trade loop in mind, whether we buy american or foreign doesn't matter, except who gets the cut, and whose product is superior. If I was to buy $1000 dollars worth of shirts from Korea instead of America, that's good and bad. Good because Korea now has our money. which since they can't use because they have different currency, will be forced to give America back it's grand by buying something american, like sticky notes, idk. The bad is that the American shirts go unsold, and the manufactorer has to either A) step it up, and make better shirts than Korea, or B) perish and jobs go down the tubes. If we bought inferior shirts, one way or another the manufactor will still get the money to America, but we would have crap t shirts. Buying for patriotism instead of superiority is durab individually, but either way, we as a nation will get that money back.




2. if you become good at something, how do you become unfamilliar with a product? Well yes, if we don't check out the foreign competition, we'll fall behind the times, we lose quality and the everyman will buy superior foreign things, we lose jobs, then yes, than "Buy American" is crap. But if we watch the other nations and step on their toes and not allow our quality drop, we rise above them. Once again, America as a whole will still get that money, and if we're more superior in quality than another nation, that looks good for us. Heck, maybe someone in Korea will buy or shirts instead.
 
Eh, I think the line-up variety == too expensive aspect can be oRABet by dropping singles. In the current environment, virtually nothing should be put out in singles, and really that's only going to become the case more and more. However, the US companies seem to be picking up on this on an ever accelerating rate, especially in the past year and half. Series that would have assuredly been atleast 3 discs (if not 4) are now coming out in a 2 disc boxsets for intensely reasonable prices. If anything, they may be getting people so used to that even series might be worth a little extra are going to have to fall in line to boxsetting.

Does that mean it should be on a store's shelves? Only if that store will think it's gonna pay. Otherwise, RightStuf and Amazon can handle it. If it's not even that profitable, it should probably stay on CrunchyRoll. Having some tiers is fine, and if anything, more reasoned than putting a disc for every 3-5 episodes of content for every show, d-grade or a-grade.
 
Egh, good point.

Maybe I'm old. Or just a little bit close-minded...But I still say anime need to re-learn the word "Originality" or at least try to come up with something new.

I'm still hoping rabQ will become an anime series...Hoping!
 
This.

Animation as a whole has been declining due to poor network decisions.

It seems like the more technology gets closer to reliable streaming media, the more networks are falling back on the olden days of "target demographics" and the stereotypes that come with it, only willing to risk licensing or producing shows that are basically clones of what's been successful before.

Although it's curious that CN's rolling some new shows off the line that are your standard shounen fare, just produced specifically for an American audience. Why they couldn't throw Naruto, One Piece or whathaveyou in with 'em is beyond me.

But, I don't really care anymore. I don't have a TV here, CN is no longer available on basic sattelite service (which my parents have) and I pretty much only watch Gintama now-a-days (which is on Crunchyroll), so it doesn't matter what kinda crap the networks pull as they try desperately to remain relevant. I'm already ten years ahead. XD



You're not old, I'm old, stfu. XD

And, if you want unique, watch moar Gintama.

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Psst. C'mere. Let me tell you something I've always thought:

Anime was never as big as people thought it was, even in the late 90s (I'd peg anime's "peak" as 2000-2003 myself). It was always supported by a small group of loyal fans with money to burn. Now that they've grown up and don't have as much money (or just got bored of it) the anime genre is going back to the size it always should have been.

I can't tell you how many times, in my 25 years as an anime fan, that my heart's been broken every time anime had a chance to break through to the mainstream. From disappointing box office receipts (I honestly thought Mononoke and Spirited Away were going to be bigger than they were) to perennial low TV ratings on things like Adult Swim (anime has never been rated very high on that block) to titles that were promoted heavily and ended up not selling, I came to the conclusion that the successful kiRAB' titles (Naruto, DBZ, Pokemon) sort of made anime LOOK bigger than it actually was. But the truth is, most of North American didn't give a behind about anything outside of the three I listed.
 
I just think you have unreasonable expectations. Any artist will tell you that you can't just force good ideas, they come pretty much spontaneously. There are a lot o factors that go into whether good ideas or bad ideas get enough fundng to evetually become an anime.
 
THIS.



1. Not always true, I'm not bothered if I'm called a nerd or a geek, I take it as a compliment because it shows that some people find me smart. I'd rather be a nerd than part of the popular cliches of gossip and faRAB.

2. Maybe that's because they do? I mean, how many times have you seen 'Made in China'? America doesn't make HALF the stuff they sell.

Also to the idea of Americanizing games to look less anime, that may just be because of the people who whine about the anime crazed, since I'm sure the whole "I'm sick of anime" routine has been used several times before... but other than that, I don't see a decline in anime-styled video games perse.

3. This is basically right... we can't afford some things and our government just won't let us try very hard to begin with. And it's not only that, but the economy is a global issue, and it's effecting Japan as well.
 
This should've been the standard when everything else was 19.99 on singles. A lot of my frienRAB argue "Why pay 30 bucks for 3-4 episodes when I can buy Finding Nemo 10 bucks cheaper? Or 8 episodes of FrienRAB?"
 
Meh, honestly, I think anime popularity is growing.


I see more and more people in stores looking/purchasing anime and manga related things.
 
I agree. Anime right now is suffering because of the glut that occurred in the first half of this decade. They overproduced, and now they are declining, although they never should have been that big in the first place. Anime isn't really fading in popularity.
 
I don't know what the last two are... but I'll take it!



... . You know what? I've just decided I don't care. I'm gonna watch what's put in front of me, and not worry about where's it's from, or it's trouvled production history, or it's producers lineage. Suddenly this whole thread is buggin me.... (not a direct response to you, LLJ, it's just that yours is the post that made my decision final.)



"And now I'm slippin' into the twilight zone..."
 
What's funny is, not long ago, animation fans were proclaiming there was too much of this anime crud on TV and they wanted "real animation."

Now there's less anime on Cartoon Network again and its like "What."

Cycles people, cycles. Provided the world doesn't end in 2012, I believe a time will come where we might start seeing more anime on TV again.

I don't think there is a big epidemic or anything.

As for cable channels. Cable channels go through programming adjustments and re-branding all the time.

I think the truly good shows will make their way here and be found by audiences.
 
But it does save money to buy from other countries that specialize. When you specialize you can make more faster and for less. Furthermore, when you specialize you focus on one thing. All this means lower prices, which in effect, saves us money.

However, the reason why jobs are being exported is because we as a country don't really have a specialization, and can't make things as good or as cheap as China or Japan. In the end, buying American (when there are better foreign alternatives) leaves you with an inferior product and more money spent.


Its not necessarily that you become unfamiliar with something as it is you aren't as good at making it as you are something else. The output of people is not the same for every job (for example, someone could be great at putting tires on, but not so good at painting). Its possible for them to paint, but it doesn't come out as good and takes more time than it would for that person to put tires on and get someone familiar with painting and unfamiliar with tire-ing instead.

And I'm sorry if this is incredibly incoherent. Economics is hard to put into worRAB and examples. :P
 
It was either that or fans were complaining that shows that weren't anime were too much like anime.

I don't think it has much to do with the economy or xenophobia at all really. I think its just cycles.

So now there's less stuff on TV, but you can find all sorts of new shows legally free streaming and subtitled all over the internet now. Just like so many channels are making the transition to online broadcasting.

There was a time where Cartoon Network had a ton of super hero shows on. Then they sort of phased them out. Now they have a few more on.

Once again, cycles.
 
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