Hot rumor: The Nokia N8 with Symbian^3

Here's a bit more complete feature list. ;)
KEY SELLING POINTS

Social Internet all in one view
? Be always up-to date what?s going on in your web communities: Social Phonebook combines OVI & 3rd Party Social networks all in one view
? Easy, one-step set up to connect your favorite social networking services
? Keep your friends close, independently where they are. Receive your friends? status messages directly to your home screen. Comment immediately their activities
? Entertain yourself checking what they?re doing Share your own feelings and interests
? Discover new thoughts, content, links or places based on your friends activities and recommendations

World?s First HD Mobile Computer with 12MP Carl Zeiss optics
? Capture HD quality video with 720p resolution at 30 frames per second. Dedicated 2nd microphone for high quality audio on video recordings
? 12 megapixel AF camera with Carl Zeiss optics with xenon flash and mechanical shutter ensure sharp images even in low light conditions or fast moving objects
? Full screen 16:9 view finder for image and video capture. Easy adjusting of imaging parameters with on-screen settings
? Face recognition to ensure camera focusing to people and get best possible images
? Video editor software to manipulate the captured images and videos. Cut, paste and edit the shots. Compose videos and add music or narration right at the device.
? Share the images and videos you have captured directly to internet. Ovi Share and other major share services supported.
? HDMI cable connection to enables to share images and videos on compatible televisions and video projectors. Completely in digital 720p resolution video transfer.
? Dolby Digital Plus surround sound with compatible home theather systems. With up to 5.1 channels of premium-quality surround sound
True Personal Computer Like Experience
? Wide selection of device colors to find user?s own preference
? Up to 6, user customizable home screens to personalize with personally relevant applications & information
? Get new applications and widgets in Ovi Store: further enhance & personalize the device
? Free on-demand TV series and movies from leading global and local broadcasters.
? Top-of the line, high quality video entertainment, running on latest trend of ad-supported web tv.
? Mobile optimized, one-click access to broadcasters? catalogs. Easy to find your own favorites.
? Increasing amount of new TV channels available thru Ovi Store.
? Open source widget for web TV available for broadcastes to start services easily and cost effectively
? Flash lite 4.0 support enabling usage of major web video services available in the internet
? Video playback time via HDMI to TV is up to 6.7 hours
? 3.5? AMOLED display with extraorinary brightness

KEY NEW UI FEATURES
? User customizable, multipage home screen with up to 6 pages? Harware accelerated UI transition effects? Pinch zoom feature in Photos, Browser and Maps? New UI optimized layuouts for landscape orientation

OTHER KEY APPLICATIONS & SERVICES
MAPS? Turn-by-turn voice guidance with spoken street names (TTS) for Drive & Walk service? Walk service offering dedicated Pedestrian Maps including stairs, pathways & tunnels ? Adjustable speed limit Warner for Drive service? Find your places & routes fast: one box search with suggestions.? LifeCaster: Location update straight to Facebook status update ? Wifi Positioning for fast & accurate positioning? Single-sign-on ?same unique Nokia Account for the devices and Ovi Maps services e.g. LifeCaster and Favorites synchronizationMUSIC? Astonishing coverflow user interface for browsing of your music collection? DRM free Ovi Music store, easy to find & discover ? Comes With Music service, millions of songs, yours to keep(varies market by market)? Music codecs MP3, AAC, eAAC, eAAC+, WMA, AMR-NB, AMR-WB? DRM support WM DRM, OMA DRM 2.0, Playready? Stereo FM radio (87.5-108MHz/76-90MHz),? FM transmitter VIDEO? Video codecs, playback/decoding : 720p 30fps: H.264, MPEG-4, VC-1, H.263 (CIF 30fps), Real Video 10 (QVGA 30fps), ON2 VP6 (VGA 30fps), Flash video (VGA 30fps)? Video codecs recording/encoding: 720p 30fps: H.264, MPEG-4, ? Video streaming: D1 30fps: MPEG-4, H.264, VC-1, Real Video 10 (QVGA 15fps), 3gpOVI STORE? Download and purchase new applications ? Home screen widgetsEMAIL & MESSAGING? Unified email client for multiple protocols: POP3/IMAP, Mail for Exchange, IBM Lotus traveler? HTML email support, supported attachments .doc, .xls, .ppt, . pdf, .zip? IM supporting: OVI Chat and with operator contract: Google GTalk, Yahoo! and Windows LiveGAMES? Dedicated graphics processor with accelerated OpenGL 2.0 to enable impressive 3D Games ? Java gamesPC APPLICATION? Ovi Suite 2.2

TECHNICAL DATA
Dimensions
Volume: 86 cc
Weight: 135 g
Length: 113.5 mm
Width (max): 59 mm
Thickness (max) 12.9 mm
Key Hardware Characteristics
? Form factor: Touch screen monoblock? Protocols: WCDMA 850/900/1700/1900/2100 and GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900? Codecs: AMR, NB AMR, WB AMR, FR, EFR? Display: 3.5? OLED, capasitive touch screen, widescreen 16:9 nHD with (640*360 pixels) 16M colors, active area 43.2 mm x 76.8 mm ? Processor speed: 680MHz? Connectors: HDMI, 3.5 mm AV connector, micro USB interface to PC, uSD slot, 2mm DC jack? USB 2.0 High Speed, USB OTG, USB charging? Memory: 256MB RAM, 512 ROM? User Memory: 140 MB internal after boot-up, 16GB eMMC, Hot swappable microSD up to 32GB? 12Mpix AF camera with Carl Zeiss Tessar f/2.8 28mm wide-angle optics. Xenon Flash, focal length 29 mm, 20x digital zoom camera ? Physical keys: application key, power key, camera key, lock key, volume up & down? Input methods: Finger touch support for text input and UI control: ITU keypad, full keyboard. Chinese handwriting recognition. Possibility to use capasitive stylus? Stereo FM Radio? Hands free speaker: Boosted Class D mono speaker? Integrated GPS? 3D Entry Accelerometer? Proximity sensor
Radio Bearer Technologies
? HSDPA Cat9 10.2Mbps, HSUPA Cat5 2.0 Mbps? GPRS/EDGE class B, Multi Slot Class 33 (5 RX + 4 TX, Max Sum 6),? Bluetooth version 2.1 (DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, GAP, SPP, HSP, BIP, SAP, GAVDP, A2DP, AVRCP, PBAP)? WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g (China version WAPI)
Key Software Characteristics
? Operating system Symbian ^3 for Nokia devices ? Java MIDP 2.1? QT4.6, Client Platform2.0, Common web runtime 2.0 , HTML 4.1 ? Flash Lite 4.0? Firmware-over-the-air/internet (FOTA, FOTI)? OMA DM 1.2, OMA Client provisioning 1.1
Accessories
? Battery: BL-4D 1200mAh (inbox)? Chargers: Travel Charger AC-15 (inbox)? Music: Music headset WH-701 (inbox) ? Connectivity cable CA-101 (inbox) ? HDMI adapter CA-157 (inbox)? Micro USB OTG to USB adaptor CA-156 (inbox)? Capasitive stylus (only on selected markets)? Bluetooth wireless headsets BH-214, BH-505, BH-607, BH-905? Extra power DC-11? Univeral Mobile Holder CR-xx? Mini Speaker MD-9
Usage times
BL-4D Talk time2G/3G Standby 2G/3G Video record H.264 720p 30 fps Music playback Video playback H.264 720p 30fps
1200 mAh Up to 7.7/5.4h Up to 719/603h 3.2h Up to 60h 7.3h

They are claiming pretty big numbers for battery usage for that 1200mah.
Liking the fact that Nokia can finally make thin camera flagship phone. 12.9mm on the camera module isn't bad at all.

"Dolby Digital Plus surround sound with compatible home theather systems. With up to 5.1 channels of premium-quality surround sound"
:D
 
From a user point of view, not a lot. It basically takes the UI to what S60V5 should have been when it launched. It's not really competitive with other touch interfaces, but it's a big step in the right direction.

From a developer's point of view, it does have QT which makes development easier. It's optional, but I can't see any manufacturer leaving it out.

From a pragmatist's point of view, it's a step in the right direction that should have been taken two years ago. To follow what liknsmak said, it'll probably keep some of the existing developers on board. It won't bring any new ones into the fold.
 
I may be a minority but I love S60 and many around here do too.


Hopefully Nokia releases a E73.


For me all I would need/like for the e73 is to be the e72 with a screen just as good or better than the BB 9700 and a navpad tweak.


BOOM! I would happily plunk down the cash on launch... :buddies:
 
The pictures of the N8 that have been leaked definitely show that there is an automatic lens cover under the glass but as far as anything other than that, I don't know.
 
I see, well it seems it does include all of the bands.

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You make some very good points. But the N900, you should use one and you'll see why they didn't market it. If you go to the Maemo forum to talk about how unfinished it is they will attack you and say pretty much that you are an idiot for not knowing what you bought. They will say that it is a MID and not really a phone. Then they will say it is really for testers. The first point is somewhat true but not an excuse. The second is true.

The N900 has some of the makings of a competitive device but it is very raw as it stands. You could never rely on it. It really is for testing, show off, nerd boasting etc. The interface is improved over Symbian, but is far from iPhone/WebOS/Android smooth. You see it running out of memory and tapping into the pagefile. You notice when it happens.

Now that's why the N900 could only appeal to a tiny niche of people who need a tester device. It could only make Nokia look even worse if it was advertised. Now when they switch to Moorestown hardware they could actually have a decent device on their hands, but I completely hate how they do not take responsibility for anything. The Maemo zealots over there cannot admit any failings and act as if you are attacking their religion should you point out anything. They also talk about how the "community" will fix everything. But this is Nokia's product and they need to take responsibility for it and I think they seem to want to let the users take responsibility for it. It's like an author selling a book with lines on the pages asking YOU to write the novel yourself. I think it is a good platform with potential but the people behind it have proven to be incompetent and therein lies the rub. They promised certain things in "the next firmware update" which apparently are still not done. They always say "next firmware update" not realizing that they lose credibility every time they fail to deliver. There is one core of apologists that they can string along and NEVER wrong in their eyes. Those people will always support Nokia as if this company and its products fills some kind of void in their lives. Other companies have their share of such "followers" too and I suspect some of them waited in line for that iPad thing.

I think such people help companies get away with making crap products and it holds us all back. They are the enemies of merit based progress.
 
A lot of what they're doing with the latest OS is very cool. For example: a vendor neutral micropayment api has both business and gaming potential.

And let's not forget they continue to create better and better displays on their qwerty phones.

EDIT: Oh, and their newest 3G phones support all regions. That's fairly innovative
 
DAMN IT!! These are the spec's i've been wanting for (full touch, better than average camera and flash, changeable storage) but from everything I've seen so far 'IT'S MONO SPEAKER OUTPUT' I need to replace my N95 and I've been saving for this phone and expecting it to be north of $700 wo/ a contract but I need stereo speakers. I listen to music, streaming audio, to much for it to be mono. If it not atleast as loud as the N95 I don't know what i'm gonna do. I know the speaker sounds petty but it could be a deal breaker.

UUUGGGHHH
 
You know, it might be worth it to Nokia if they just bundle in SPB Mobile Shell with the N8. The new version is Symbian compatible. It'll be like what HTC does with Sense.

In any case, I'm pretty confident now that I won't be missing out on anything from Nokia until they have a Meego phone, so the Omnia is officially my last Symbian device.
 
I believe it will either have a dedicated GPU (video accelerator?) or a part of the CPU will be dedicated for graphics -- I forget.



You'll have nothing to worry about. :)

///Michael
 
but in fairness symbian^3 competes with iPhone and Android. it isn't as bad as you're thinking at all. it will be a huge change.

the problem is they will break binary compatibility going to symbian^4 which will suck for developers. but actually I thought any app written in QT should be trivial to bring into ^4.
 
Nice design. Looks like the leaked pic before MWC. I'm assuming, from the industrial design, that its a qwerty slider like the N97/N97 Mini. Too many non-flush (looking) buttons on the outside... I wonder if the final model will be cleaner in this respect.

Unfortunately, outside of OS and processor, I don't know that its much more than a "skating to where the puck is at" - unlike that pushing ahead (making a top of the line device). Which isn't a bad thing.

Price wise, hardware looks like Nokia might be able to command a small premium for this ($500ish where $350-400 would have been a better place to start).

The screen is at least 4in. Its not proportioned the same as the N97 sitting beside me, its larger. Wonder what that will do to screen sharpness.
 
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