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Hi, everyone
I have Gnutella for a week now and can't get to download anything.
I spent two nights in a row trying to download *** and in the morning
only 2% came down.
How can i get this soft so i can try to see how it is?
Can i go direct to the address and how to go.
Thanks. i have a 56k modem

- remember the copyright! Morgwen -
 
If your on a modem once you find and start a D/L make sure you disconnect from all hosts. This way all of your availble bandwidth is going to the D/L.
 
Morgwen,

Ok I see your point but if you only have a modem connection you really need to do this. Now let me clarify. Only disconnect from all hosts after a D/L starts. As we all know if your looking for anything other than mp3 it takes a long time just to get a D/L started. For however long it takes before a D/L starts the modem user can stay connected to hosts and share his/her files. Also I did not mention or mean for the modem user to disconnect uploaders.
 
Why?

Its not necessary, when you use a client with swarmed downloads...

or limit the bandwidth, but never *please* never disconnect from gnet...

When all people disconnect from gnet while downloading, where do you want to download your files from?

Even if you don
 
Ok I see the point of view from the thread you directed me to. My question is, is the gnutella net mostly populated with clients that "swarm?" If not then modem users are mostly useless for uploads. If most clients do not swarm then modem users would better serve the net by connecting, finding something to d/l, disconnecting while a D/L is ACTIVE and allowing one upload. After the D/L is complete connect back to the net.
As far as having to wait for files you will never have more open slots than filled because our "wants" are unlimited while the supply is limited.
 
Actually not, but this will change in the near future...

Limewire, Xolox and the new Gnucleus beta 1.6 are working with yet!

At least three new clients are in progress - two of them will be released soon!

Morgwen
 
Morgwen,
I believe the biggest problem is with people not sharing any files not people disconnecting from the net.

Again I am speaking about modem users. But what good are they? At best they offer a 33k upload speed and that is assuming a perfect connection. I don't even bother trying to D/L from someone with less than a 100k connection. Now if we were using Gnutella to trade simple txt files well then your statements would be true, but since most of us are trading files that are many Meg or even several Gig in size dial up connections are only good for the person who owns it.

Also you ask me to never disconnect from the net? Now I am willing to bet most users of Gnutella don't leave their comp on 24/7 so how is this any different than a modem user disconnecting when he/she D/L?

One more point, I use Gnotella and even when I am not connected to any hosts (disconnected from the network) I still have people uploading from me. When someone is uploading I am connected to their hosts, according to the stats tab in Gnotella. So can't people still search me? Also by disconnecting from the net and still letting people upload am I not clearing the "que" that is out there for my files? Hell that was two points
 
Hi!

Read this discussion between Moak and me:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=13395#post13395

Yes you are right!

A modem connetion is to slow for d/l - but if you d/l from five modem user at the same time, its fast again...

Waiting for feedback!

Morgwen
 
Just a question.

I always wonder about the phrase 'swarm download', because ppl mean downloading file segments from multiple host at the same time. While 'swarming' means distributing/uploading small file partials over the net.
I thought 'swarmed downloads' is different to 'multisegmented downloads'? Both are similar, yes, but swarming and swarmed downloads are currently not available on Gnutella.

Just my
 
Morgwen,
no I'm just that guy lurking arround in Gnutella Development without having an own client. :-)

The difference, okay it's not very much... propably not more as from banana milk to strawberry milk (add alcohol too both, if you are not a milkdrinker). You see a similarity, but at least they have a different taste.

Multisegmented downloading: You start to download a file from a host. Then you find other hosts which offer the same file, so you start to download from them too, but from another file positions (a little bit later inside the file). As a result you parallel download multiple segments of a file. It's much faster as we know, great!
If you need a visualisation, just have a look on Flashget (a famous download manager). It shows exactly how many parts of a file it has downloaded (blue dots) and how many segments (they call it 'jets') are parallel downloaded (streams with red dots). Optional use eDonkey, AFAIK they also provide a download visualisation.

Swarmed downloading (as far as I interpret this phrase): You download one or more swarmed segments of a file, from as many hosts as you find. One single host does not have the full file, only some very small segments. Those segments are tiny compared to the segments from multisegmented downloads (described above). While with mutisegment downloading you download a few segments parallel, with swarmed downloads you need to download hundreds/thousands of segments until the file is finished. You can mix multisegmented with swarmed downloads. Before I forget, all those swarmed segments has to be swarmed first (=distributed and uploaded)... exactly this is not implemented in any Gnutella/FastTrack/eDonkey client yet. Swarming is theory, it is thought to make more use of modem users, balance load between servents and increase overall bandwith/availability.

When ppl talking about swarmed downloads, they usually mean 'multisegmented download'. I guess, 'swarmed download' is easier to pronounce.

Greets, Moak

PS: Oh, and to make the whole issue very (!) confusing, there is Bearshare wich claims to have "Multi-Source Downloading"... which is absolutely not what it looks like! Not multisegmented or swarmed downloading, it just means 'resuming' (= when one host drops, they download from another). A better phrase would be "Single-Source Downloading" here. Commercial Gnutella vendors like marketing names.
 
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