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well, I didn't follow all the discussion but I would love to see James, Jon and Mike all together in a IRC section answering questions all together :lol:
 
This is the other side of the coin which we don't know about. This would certainly change our perception to some degree about the what.cd staff.

I'm not generalising or accusing any site in particular but my only concern is that a disabled user should be allowed to explain himself (if he wants to regain membership) properly before getting kicked from IRC. Ofcourse,I don't make the rules but I feel it's the ethical thing to do. From some IRC logs that i've seen,this doesn't always happen I'm afraid.

WhatMan said:
The amount of hatred in this forum towards me is intense. Perhaps it would be better if I didn't come here?
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There are people here like myself who appreciate your assistance and explanation. Don't mean to be rude but if you think that people here are gonna oblige/agree with everything you say then you'll be disappointed.
 
WhatMan said:
This is what we have to work with:

-map07023 claims his name is Mike. This I believe, because he has a university email address.
-He invited a user who he calls Jon (jayb0ne), who invited himself twice.
-All accounts were disabled.
-Half a year later, a user called kw1k, who Mike claims he sold his computer to, and claims is Jon, signs up and invites Mike three hours later. He got the invites by donating with jayb0ne's (Jon's) email address, which he claims his invitee (so-called Jon, but really Mike) did.
-kw1k posted on the forums that his name was Jon.
-However, when we brought him into IRC for questioning, he claimed that his name was James, that he had invited Jon, and that Mike is some guy he hasn't known for years. He claims that jayb0ne (who Mike claims is Jon) is a previous coworker of his (Mike makes the same claim). ie, both Mike and James agree that jayb0ne is a previous coworker of theirs named Jon, despite (allegedly) Mike having donated on James's account with jayb0ne's email.
-We do know with 100% certainty that kw1k (James) invited the user map07023 (Mike), and not Jon as kw1k (James) claims.
-All users have the exact same taste in music.

Thus, the only logical conclusion is that they are all the same person (Mike) pretending to have multiple personalities and lying through his teeth. The kw1k account will be disabled (even if it isn't Mike, kw1k is still guilty of lying), and all other accounts will remain disabled.
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I can ASSURE YOU, that mike and jon are not the same person. Map07023 (me) invited Jayb0ne (jon) who proceeded to invite himself multiple times. My account and his were both banned and the staff assumed that all jayb0nes accounts were mine (which they were not). A half a year later, kw1k (aka Jon aka jayb0ne) moved to a different location with a different ip address and used a computer that I had sold to him during our time at work together and got back on what.cd. He proceeded to toss me and invite, which i accepted while somewhat confused as to what was going on. We were both immediately banned again. There is no James in the story, he is non-exinsistant. There is only me (mike) and jayb0ne/kw1k (jon). We ARE NOT the same person, and I can provide so much evidence to prove this. I am not lying about anything, I am trying to prove the truth and get MY account back (map07023). You guys just keep assuming that I am lying and manipulating and that all these accounts are mine, but really they are not.

Whatman, please check the What.CD email. Thanks.
 
WhatMan said:
The amount of hatred in this forum towards me is intense. Perhaps it would be better if I didn't come here?
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Why would you leave?

Sure, some people hate you, and sure, other people appreciate your help, but what's your real point in leaving?

Not everyone in FST has the same attitude towards tracker staff.
 
OP, I also have no idea what you got yourself into but you did break the rules, a few times if I read correctly. You invited a person that made multiple accounts got banned and then proceeded to make another account yourself, knowing you were banned there. I see nothing unfair. Basically created a lot of headaches for the staff there.
 
I told them that he was using my old laptop and that these were two different accounts but they immediately banned me.
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I really don't get this!
Did you sell your laptop + home connection + the same IP to your friend?
and please don't tell me you sold the laptop with all the files and browser history and cookies!
 
Your assuming everything whatman says is true.
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Who has more reason to lie?

In any case, every single time someone comes whining to these forums, the facts are revealed that they have lied not only to the staff of the tracker where they were banned, but also to the forum here in some pathetic plea for sympathy, presumably in hopes that public outcry will get their account reinstated. What people here sometimes forget is on a site of 110K members with 20 people to run the place, it's a full time job and tempers are often stretched, especially by the idiots who wind up in the disabled channel. I've seen firsthand some of the idiocy that has landed former members in that channel in the first place, and I can see why you'd be pissed off after having hundreds of people throw the same lies in your face when caught breaking a rule. With that many members, there will obviously be a greater number of disgruntled cast oRAB, perpetuating your apparent stereotype that their staff are terrible.
 
how can i know if all he says is true?
and if you are reffering to
(mostly exposing liars)
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then look up the threads where the op gets exposed for cheating or creating dupe accounts, gets flamed by other fsters and gets dissapeared.
in this case i believe whatman.
but i tried to make another point with my previous post, it's cool that he takes his time to come to fst and deals with "members in trouble".
i have to add that i don't know what is going on in their irc tho.
 
th0r said:
gl finding someone here who'll want to invite you
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you forgot that he's good at passing interviews :)

anyway, general advice for everyone: don't fuckin invite no one, asking to disable your invite privilegues is even better method cause this way you'll be isolated even from suspictions of trying to invite somebody baaaad :)
 
WhatMan said:
map07023, if you have something you can't say here, email it to [email protected]. The first thing I want to see explained is why your friend said he bought his laptop from Jon, and not you.
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By the way, if you see kw1k's post history, he says in one of his posts that his name is Jon. :ermm:
 
AdrianPhoto,

I sold him my laptop...he used it at his own house on his own IP, but somehow they were able to track it i'm not sure how. I got a new macbook pro, so i figured id give him a deal on my old HP...anyway, hopefully this can get sorted out because I am telling the truth! Thanks.

And yea, if somehow i get back on, im not inviting a fucking soul :)
 
That is simply not true. I can provide proof that the computer he is using is my old computer. I am telling the 100% truth whether you believe me or not. I have ample evidence that I can provide in a private message from a moderator or someone that can prove all of this.
 
Tv Controls you said:
Their facts aren't coherent... And is solely based off of 2 generic names...
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It's not necessarily that it's incoherent, I'm not sure I could've worded that giant mess any better myself. The circular logic/same names being mentioned over and over again (which led him to believe that they were all the same person) is what really takes a few seconds to understand.
 
I also lost my what account to "cheating", and both I and the accuser know it was bullcrap. Had about 7 Gb uploaded over a year giving about a 1.00 ratio.

I think it's a plan to sort out people that didn't use the account for everything. Like a dnb fan over 30 ever stood a chance of that teeny emo train. The whole thing was not smelling like anything washed.

Yeah. A cheater with those credentials. I am sure my ip will follow neatly into the folds of this comment.

Atleast I'm not a desperate dick...
 
WhatMan said:
EDIT: I also despise the number of people here (in every thread of this vein) who suggest that he cheat his way back in by getting a second account, and offer him advice on how to avoid detection. It is because of people like you that many staff no longer offer help on this forum, and it will be because of you that the remaining ones will eventually abandon it. By creating posts like this, you are driving utility away from your community, and by driving utility away from it, you are contributing to its own eventual destruction. This is not advised.
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Just to be clear here, I don't believe that FST condones such duplicitous actions, of any sort here. Idol, Cabalo, cine, and many of the other regulars here try their best to point out when people are attempting to receive invites under false pretenses, and they are dealt with accordingly. We aren't perfect however, and with a open forum such as this only so much can be done.
 
Well, it's on What.cd rules that if you ever log in from the IP of someone that's also a member, or reversed, your accounts will be linked - thus affecting both if one of them breaks the rules.

I guess you can only expect the What.cd staff to see your post and make the final decision. Do NOT try to make a new account unless you can handle it.
 
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