Help needed pls reguarding neck and spine!

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Hello all im looking for some advice please as im very confused as to what is going on with my spine.
Basically i am a 27 year female that has been involved in 2 car accidents,both not my fault and the other sides admitted liability on both cases.Anyway over the past 4 years since the car accidents happened i have suffered with a nuraber of symptoms from chronic pain in my neck and thoractic spine,chest pain,spinal spasms,pins and needles,burning and dizziness.I had an mri scan of my brain,neck,thoractic and luraber spine.The results showed that the brain and luraber were normal but the neck showed advanced degenerative disc disease and moderate cervial stenosis at c4-c5,also the c4-c5 nerve had been crushed.The thoratic spine was a lot worse,this showed advanced darkened and narrowed discs at t6,t7,t8 and t9 that are prolapsed and impinge the thoratic cord.Also loss of central height in the vertebrea and compression fractures at t7 and t8.
The spinal specialists at the hospital who were treating me said that the car accidents could explain this damage but then i have just been sent to another spinal surgeon for the purpose of a legal medical report who has said that he beleives i have Scheurmanns Disease and none of the damage including the fractures were caused by the car accidents.Im so confused as i never had any of these problems or pain before the car accidents and there is no record in my medical reports of me ever going to the drs or hospital reguarding pain in my neck or thoractic spine.
Sorry to go on but im so upset as im in agony everyday and now i have had to give up my job as im unable to work at all due to pain and chronic fatigue.

Has anyone else got these same kind of injurys and what is the advice you were given or the causes for the problems.Any advice would be fantastic please..thankyou x
 
Sorry, I have no answers for you. I have never heard of Scheurmanns Disease. Have you
researched it on the internet. It is strange that your symptoms show up after the wrecks but it is possible. I had something show up 6 months after surgery. I am still trying to get a definite positive positive on Lupus and they say it can be dormant for a long time after a surgery and an infection. I'm wondering if what your doc suspects can surface after an impact or something. You find out some strange things when you get sick sometimes. Good luck to you.
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Let me take a guess...this spine surgeon you just saw was an independent medical exam requested by the at fault driver's insurance.

Scheuermann’s kyphosis is found mostly in teenagers.

Did you have problems with your posture that you were unable to correct?

Due to deformity of your spine, did you have a loss of height that made you appear much more heavy-set than you were?

Did that surgeon warn you that because of the loss in height it puts extra pressure on your internal organs which will cause them to wear out faster than the normal aging process?

I am not trying to freak you out. If these items do not sound like you, you need to go to a different specialist. Probably an orthopedic surgeon with a fellowship in spinal surgery. The other party's insurance company's job is to find a doctor that is going to say your spine problems were not caused by the accident. The important thing is, even if you did have a spine condition, there is no way a doctor can say definitively that none of the problems were caused from the accidents.

Do some research, talk to your attorney and be your own best advocate. You deserve better than what that surgeon was trying to dish out! :wave:
 
Your attorney will help you, and as you have no record in the past of going to the dr or hospital for those problems, relax on the fact legally of what that dr said that theres no relation. Also, your attorney will probably have a dr that he can refer you to goto as well, ask him.

The spinal cord board deals moreso with neck and thoracic, this board deals more with lower/lurabar back problems, as the spinal cord enRAB around T12 or so in your spinal columm regarding the nerves etc. You have serious injuries, and take care of them the best you can, the stress of worrying about what that dr said is just going to make you feel worse so relax.

Take care, and I wouldn't worry legally on what the dr has to say personally, call your lawyer, and deal soly with what he/she has to say
 
great advice from the others here. the one thing i wanted to mention about what showed up on your MRI? while some of this IS a degenerative type of thing, i am willing to bet at least half of it could very well have been caused by the accidents too.

the one thing about having underlying spinal problems is that they are just there at times and we do not always feel them yet only because they have not gotten to the point where they just 'show themselves" to that degree? it usually TAKES a form of trigger or the catalyst that pulls them to the forefront. then we feel everything, you know what i mean? any level of actual MVA can really really show other things only because of the true impact of the forces involved.

it really IS a good thing for you,legally that you had not yet felt any of this,or had it documented in any docs medical files. this is all 'new" and fresh. but like i said, some of what you have there was already most definitely 'present" and degenerative before these accidents even occured. but this also would have made your spine just much more vulnerable to damage from anything like an MVA too.

you mentioned two seperate MVAs? did they ever do any type of testing(CT or MRI?) after your very first one, or immediately after the second? how much time passed between MVA one and two? Marcia
 
Hello all...
thankyou so much for replying.As to the questions asked by bwitht,there was never any mention of me having any problems ever when i was a teenager and nobody has ever mentioned about scheurmanns disease or any other disease before.The doctor did say that i had lost central height at t7-t8 as the vertebrea was wedged shaped but the doctor said that it had been caused by injury.No one has ever said about internal damage on the organs and to look at my spine in real life it appears to look perfectly normal with no abnormal curve at all.

I just hope i get more answers from my solicitors to as they seem to be doing a rubbish job as far as fighting my case,i rang them last week and told them how worried i was but they still havent got back to me...nice of them.

Thankyou all and take care xx
 
Hello,i had the first car accident in Feb 05 and the second accident in April 08,the first mri scan i had was on my neck about a year after the first accident which showed the damage to my neck.Then i had a full mri scan of neck,thoratic and luraber a few weeks before the second accident in march 2008,this is where the neck had become a lot worse and they found the prolapsed discs from t6,t7,t8 and t9,also wedge type vertebre and loss of central height.The luraber spine wa snormal and still appears to be normal now.The last mri scan i had was 2 days after the last accident and this showed that the damage in my neck was now advanced and had become cervical stenosis and also 2 x compression fractures at t7 and t8,note the fractures were not there only a matter of weeks before the second accident.
I keep researching about scheurmanns disease and it just dosent sound like me at all.I never had any problems as a teenager,my back is perfectly straight with no abnormal curve at all.

Thankyou for your reply
 
Hi there I am new to boarRAB but have Scheuermann's and like you was diagnosed as an adult at 21 am now 33 . I was diagnosed after a nasty fall down stairs which left me in pain for some time and needing physio. I had chest and back xrays at that time which showed the typical wedge vertebrae associated with this. The curves is not always obvious even if you have had since childhood and the pain does not always present until adulthood although it is rare. Physio is good with cat stretches exercises i found painkillers are useful as pain and stiffness is likely particularly with long perioRAB of sitting still or in bed or any position non moving. The key is to keep it mobile if you can. it can be common in people who had growth spurts and were taller as a child and also having been very sporty or physically active as a child, both of which apply to me . I hop this helps , do let me know
 
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