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Help me with healthcare debate please!?
- Thread starter Alex T
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What he said in the speech is all there is. If you oppose the plan you are a liar and apparently belong to the KKK. You must be a raciest and belong to a mob of sorts. You are a swastika totting communist and hate helping your fellow American. You will be subjected to a beating at the town hall meetings while voicing your opinion and given the Joe the Plumber treatment by the government thugs. You will be deemed ANTI-AMERICAN and you shall, for future Reference, be an American terrorist. You will not have the opportunity to be released into paradise with the real terrorist to live a life of luxury on the golden sands of Bermuda at the tax payers expense. Obviously there is no argument for the Plan. Just threats and beatings if you oppose. Your argument will be short lived as Government has failed at all past and present programs. You have no real debate. All you have is beatings and thugs to ram it down Americans throats. GOOD LUCK
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Goldenword20
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A great many people (millions) are now in a position where they cannot buy Health Insurance at all such as my wife. If we were multimillionaires we could not buy it. She has too many "previous” conditions and no company will even talk to her. As a matter of fact they hang up on her. Our last premium was $1850 a month before we had to leave. We were priced out and can never get any insurance at all unless something is changed. Our only option is if something were to happen to her is to sell everything we have and go live under a bridge somewhere. Then we could get Health Care. She is not old enough for Medicare.
Your "side" for reforming it... is not the Obama side first and foremost and if the other side thinks that's what you believe you are going down and fast because you don't even grasp the concept of what's going on.
If your teacher thinks and has assigned it as Obamas side is the reform side, you are free to understand that your teacher is a complete moron.
Both sides know that it has to be changed but not through taking it over.
When people couldn't afford food in the 30's and 40's, the government came up with the program to give food stamps to people..... They didn't decide to take over the food industry as they are attempting to now.
The real simple and easy way to solve it and provide reform is to REDUCE the red tape that has been put on the insurance companies.
As crazy as this may sound, currently insurance companies are limited to within their own state and cannot provide coverage outside of it.
All you'd need to do to not only provide competition and then low prices would be to allow them to insure people from anywhere in the country and not just 1 state.
They would then be in competition not with 4 or 5 major insurance companies within their own state...... but hundreds from all around the country.
The difference in the average cost of insurance in this country from state to state is so wide its unbelievable.
The average in Montana is about $1200 a year, while the average in Massachusetts is over $8000.
The only way such a wide margin could and has happened is because the insurance companies have no competition within their own states.
Simple solution.... give them competition from other states.
Honestly I have spelled it out but if you know the facts anyone over the age of 10 should be able to comprehend this and understand that it makes a lot more sense than creating "competition" from an entity that doesn't have to make a profit therefore can price policies at 1/10 of a company.... and an entity that can print money if things go south.
Coincidentally if this all goes through... the government option will actually bankrupt the insurance companies.... and then guess what's going to happen when THEY have no competition..... that's right.... your taxes go through the roof so they can pay for the damn thing and say they're "bringing down the debt".
Logical... rational thinking is all that's needed for the situation.
If your teacher thinks and has assigned it as Obamas side is the reform side, you are free to understand that your teacher is a complete moron.
Both sides know that it has to be changed but not through taking it over.
When people couldn't afford food in the 30's and 40's, the government came up with the program to give food stamps to people..... They didn't decide to take over the food industry as they are attempting to now.
The real simple and easy way to solve it and provide reform is to REDUCE the red tape that has been put on the insurance companies.
As crazy as this may sound, currently insurance companies are limited to within their own state and cannot provide coverage outside of it.
All you'd need to do to not only provide competition and then low prices would be to allow them to insure people from anywhere in the country and not just 1 state.
They would then be in competition not with 4 or 5 major insurance companies within their own state...... but hundreds from all around the country.
The difference in the average cost of insurance in this country from state to state is so wide its unbelievable.
The average in Montana is about $1200 a year, while the average in Massachusetts is over $8000.
The only way such a wide margin could and has happened is because the insurance companies have no competition within their own states.
Simple solution.... give them competition from other states.
Honestly I have spelled it out but if you know the facts anyone over the age of 10 should be able to comprehend this and understand that it makes a lot more sense than creating "competition" from an entity that doesn't have to make a profit therefore can price policies at 1/10 of a company.... and an entity that can print money if things go south.
Coincidentally if this all goes through... the government option will actually bankrupt the insurance companies.... and then guess what's going to happen when THEY have no competition..... that's right.... your taxes go through the roof so they can pay for the damn thing and say they're "bringing down the debt".
Logical... rational thinking is all that's needed for the situation.