Hello! i got a debate tomorrow on the war, can someone give some opinions?

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The question is this:
Should we bring our troops home from the war immediately?

Give me your opinion. i don't think we should bring our troops home IMMEDIATELY. nothing you have to say is wrong there's no right answer. if i like your answr enough i want to use it for my debate. please give it your best.! Thankyou ; here is the information i have soo far:

We would lose the respect of our friends (those friends who see radical islam as a threat as well as those around the world who do but are afraid to speak up for fear of murder or political coorectness).
We would be throwing away the chance to change the course of the Middle East. The chance of Iraq coming to its senses may not be 100% if we stay, but the chance of it becoming a decent place to live if we leave is 0%.

THANKS AGAIN.
 
Should we bring our troops HOME from IRAQ IMMEDIATELY?

Well if we want the Radical Islamist movement to CLAIM a VICTORY AGAINST the GREAT SATAN.

The answer is YES!

If we want to show that the USA is weak and has no stomach to stand up for it's interest around the world--THEN YES.

If we want to appear weak in front of our ENEMIES--and they will grow in number--the weaker we appear--THEN YES!

IF we want to show our ALLIES--all over the world that the USA will not stand with them to fight when they need our help. THEN YES!

If we want to abandon 25 million people to Radical Islamist--Immediately and millions more across the middle-east in the near future THEN YES!

In over four YEARS of WAR we have lost less than 4100 soldiers and marines---While the loss of a single soldier is a tragedy. We have to put that in perspective.

We are a nation of 300 million people. We lose far more people to hospital incompetency. Estimated at almost 100,000 people a year. Car crashes cost the Nation 40,000 a year. Diabetes is another 40,000 plus.

What is the cost we are willing to pay for the freedom of 25 million people and a democratic ALLY in our fight against the RADICAL Islamist that cheered in the streets as the World trade Center collapsed.

Monetarily we have spent about half a trillion dollars in IRAQ since the start of the war there.
About the same amount of MONEY we lost from our economy from the attacks on September 11th 2001.

To leave Iraq would advance the Radical Islamist movement around the world and swell it's ranks with eager recruits.

To defeat them in Iraq would deal them a blow that would undermine their greatest propaganda tool that the USA is out to destroy ISLAM. A democratic Muslim nation allied with the USA against the RADICALS. A nation that believes in individual rights, the equal rights of women and minorities, religious freedom for all. A nation that believes in the democratic process, and the rule of law. A nation that believes it's individuals have a say in their Government. A nation that sits in the Very Heart of the Radicals base of power. The very things Our Own founding fathers fought for. The very reason we are able to hold this debate in the first place.

The war against the Radical Extremist in IRAQ has been Hard. But the attacks on September 11th in NEW YORK and the subsequent attacks in Bali, London, Madrid, Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan and elsewhere has has shown us that these people are willing to attack the USA and it's people and anybody that gets in their way no matter where they are.

They will justify these attacks the same way they justify all their attacks--the will of God.

The war in Iraq has been going on for a little over four years--but these Radicals have been at war with the USA and all the western nations since President Carter had to deal with the Extremist that took American hostage in the late 1970s in IRAN, since the suicide bomber blew up the marine barracks in Beirut while Reagan was in office. The very ones that attacked the world trade center, the USS COLE, the AMERICAN Military Barracks in Saudi Arabia while Clinton was President.

How do we counter generations of people in the middle-east who have heard only the propaganda the Radicals--spewed from the mosque loud speakers around the middle-east for 30 plus years, repeatedly by their family members as they sent their sons off to blow themselves up and praised by their neighbors when they have managed to kill American soldiers, Israeli women and children and Muslim women and children trying to have better lives.--often encouraged by leaders, leaders like Saddam --A democracy in the heart of the middle-east is the only answer. A democracy that protects the rights of individuals and hunts down those that kill anybody that does not help them kill anybody that does not worship God as faithfully as they do.

There--I hope that helps!
 
You've stated no facts. So, let me help you.

As President, Eisenhower understood that the world's economy runs on oil. He approved the CIA/British operation known as "Ajax" to procede -- overthrowing the government of Iran and installing the Shaw upon the Peacock throne.

Reagan too, understood the economics and assigned the U.S. Navy to escort the reflagged foreign oil tankers through the region during the Iran/Iraq war.

The fear in Washington was (when Saddam invaded Kuwait) that he would not stop there, that he was going for Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar and not stopping until he got to Oman. The fear was that historically, the UN was ineffective and would do nothing. So, the U.S. mounted a coalition of force.

The first gulf war (Desert Storm) ended when Saddam agreed to a cease-fire with numerous sanctions.

Saddam refused to abide by those sanctions and refused to allow weapons inspections to take place. The first chief weapons inspector resigned in total disgust when he got no support from either the U.S. (Bill Clinton) or the UN.

The current war is little more than a continuation of that first war.

The cost of some 4,080 lives over a period of what? six or seven years at war is actually incredibly low. Gen. Patton in the last six months of 1944, lost on average 1,300 men every three weeks.

Both the President of Iran and the leader of al Qaida in Iraq commended the people of the U.S. (on November 8th, 2006 -- the day after the congressional elections) for having elected the Democrats -- sorry folks, that one was reported repeatedly on CNNs Headline News.

The President of Iran has stated that Iran is "ready to fill the vacuum of power (in Iraq) when the U.S. leaves.

Iran has mismanaged their oil production capabilities. They sit atop the world's third largest known oild deposit and yet, they have to import rather than export oil! They've not reinvested the profits at the pumps back into research and developement. Currently, Iranians are paying on average 38 cents per gallon at the pumps. Irans wells are now all over 50 years old and in a rate of decline in production by 13%. Their laws and policies are extremely prohibitive when it comes to allowing foreign companies to come in and get the oil out of the grown, currently the only ones willing to meet their standards are the Italians. Should the U.S. pull out prematurely (before having secured the border with Iran), the Iranians will most suredly step in and take charge, thus taking control of the world's oil supply -- and remember folks, Iran supports terrorism. Just from the greed of the oil companies here, we've already witnessed an increase in the cost of everything -- you're now paying three times as much for groceries as you were just two months ago. Can you just imagine what you will be paying should Iran (who is very much anti-American) should be allowed to control the flow of oil?

For those who complain about a "loss of freedoms," understand that FDR had far more power than does Bush. He was allowed wire taps and spying on Americans without benefit of a search warrant -- that's how they got Al capone! FDR incarcarated some 1,200 Americans without due process of law for four years (Japanese-American "Internment Camps")!

It was Bush Sr. who started the military draw-downs (planned even before Desert Storm), but it was Bill Clinton who finished them. He had no idea what he was doing. He used the FDR "New Deal" strategy/excuse -- "the economy's in a slump, we'll never again be in a two front war" (Adm. Nader -- a chief Architect of Clinton's draw down -- justifying to me the reason for the draw down) and we REALLY don't need this large a military. They're a drain on our economy. Perhaps if Bill weren't so busy with an intern, he'd have done the right thing and we wouldn't be in a two front war now.

There's plenty more, but this should REALLY be enough. Good luck!
 
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