Heavy Metal Causes Violence

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How do you feel about these statements in relation to heavy metal and hard rock?

In Vancouver, during a 30 minute Beatles performance, 100 people were stomped upon, gouged and assaulted. (Satan
 
That's easier said than done. When you're cramped in a tiny venue, the reality is some people are going to have to be on the inside of the outer ring... these are the people who the moshers end up mangling because they start to occupy more and more space as the show goes on.

And I have to go somewhere not too far from the front because I'm shorter and I can't see otherwise.
 
I think metal does cause violence.

I bought Morbid Angels Blessed Are The Sick album a few years ago & after hearing it wanted to stamp on the CD & punch the face of the twat that recommended I waste
 
violent films, tv shows, and music undoubtedly have an impact on violence in the real world. These things desensitize people from a young age and devalue human life. Therefore, children grow up not recognizing the extreme that taking someones one life or hurting them badly is. They don't realize that it has a real world effect. Well, it isn't that they dont realize it, its just that the effect that it has is not shocking anymore. We've become accustomed to hearing about murder and abuse so we don't think twice about it. This most likely explains why Voice_of_the_Soul121301 thinks that the torture of children en masse is natural. And that thier brutal deaths are inevitable, and justifiable as long as it benefits him.

maybe it seems like i was taking a cheap shot here, but i type my entire reply to this thread and realized how relevant that is. I see Voice of the Soul opine about nothing other than violent death/black/whatever-the f*ck you want to call it metal music, and find that his personal philosophies are almost certainly derived from this crap. Devaluing of human life, voice is a good example I think.

But, it is art and it shouldn't be censored.
 
Ah, I suppose. Yeah, though I do like moshing every so often it bugs me when people start **** or try getting people involved when they clearly don't want to be.
 
I was first exposed to violent horror films before I was ten. I was'nt encouraged to watch them, alternatively I was'nt banned from seeing them either. I was reading horror novels in my teens, as well as experiencing Metal music (the 80's). I can honestly say that media does NOT CAUSE violence. is it a contributing factor-of course. The human mind is not immune to violence, but if you are taught about cause and effect as you are growing up, then it put's everything into context. My kiRAB are taught right and wrong and show that attitude towarRAB others. Good parenting is essential.

I'm a huge film fan, and the argument of whether films cause violence comes up many more times, and it saddens me when media related sources are used as scapegoats for society's ills.

Of course there are exceptions, and some people are directly affected by the media they experience, but I would argue that there is some underlying mental problem in the first place.

Now where's my fcking axe?
 
you know whether or not there's going to be moshing/dancing at a show before you even go (by the banRAB present). if you do go, don't bitch about getting hit, regardless of the venue size. i honestly don't understand why people would go to a metal/hardcore show and not dance/mosh. stand around and listen to a band play songs off their record at a lower quality.

sounRAB awesome.
 
You're right. I mean, I could have just sat home and listened to Gwar and still get the same satisfaction that I would get at their show..... getting covered in blood and piss.

That's what's great about shows; You get to SEE the band you're listening to.

But I do agree with you; You gotta weigh the benefits and the drawbacks; do you want to see the band alot more than you don't want to get hit, or vice versa?
 
If anyone gets trampled in a concert, it is most likely caused by an international band being offered a crappy shabby small venue when they deserve better.
 
Can't provide a link because it was from a book. But the point of the post was not to question the sources, it was to generate discussion on whether or not you believe this to be true.
 
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