Have you ever been banned UNFAIRLY from a tracker?

megabyteme said:
Hang on, P2PDog and Grow4Dough...yeah, I just checked the title of this thread and I was correct. It is not, "Has P2PDog and Grow4Dough ever gotten a hurt butt?". Nope.

The correct title is, "Have you ever been unfairly banned from a tracker?".

Again, we are not looking for individual stories, just community experiences. The individual is not important this time, rather the community. Talk of TrackerX, or Y, is unimportant.

There are plenty of other places to complain about hurt butts and abuses of power. Heck, start your own thread...
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the community is made up of individuals each with their own story that will paint a clearer overall picture. im sorry if common sense has eluded you and you do not understand that. also, i dont give a fuck what you want in this thread, i saw other people post their stories so i posted mine. have a great day, and please give me your opinion more, i care deeply about what you want.
 
megabyteme said:
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Questions:

[1] What system(s) can be put in place so that this happens less?

[2] Supposedly, the US Justice System is designed so that "100 guilty men will be set free instead of one innocent man being found guilty". Does this idea apply to BT, why or why not?

[3] Should there be some form of appeal forum available (not the open "poor me" style we have seen here)? How would/could this be implemented?


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1. there should be a way to be notified that you are being suspected of breaking the rules, and an opportunity to defend yourself before being banned

2. the bt system is more like the French guilty till proven innocent system, probably because there's not enough resources to investigate every violation thoroughly and the risk a rule breaker poses to the site can be high and the loss of a potential good member isn't considered that great of a loss to a sought after tracker.

3. there are com reps on this forum and others like it. some boards even have a tracker support section
 
This poll doesn't make much sense because there isn't any difference between a person who was banned from a tracker and a person who wasn't banned from a tracker.
 
No. I've been banned justly a couple of times and then got it sorted. Most of the topics here are just people bitching because they cheated or broke rules and got banned then acted like dicks instead of apologising and asking for another chance.
 
Nothing personal, P2pDog. Please feel free to talk about the poll or trackers in general. I don't see any value in this becoming a free-for-all chance to bad-mouth trackers. There have been many, many threads that have already done that.

And I do apologize if my wording upset you. I am trying to keep this thread fro snowballing into that sort of thing.

If this does become a complaint forum, I will have it deleted. I get annoyed when I see people bad-mouthing sites and their staff in other threads, I won't create a forum for it.

Thanks...
 
Lots of bans, most temporary but one was annoying.

-Banned on Waffles for 'hammering the tracker'. Turns out that max_half.open to 100 when downloading 32 torrents at a time is a bad idea. Quick chat and was re-enabled.

-Banned on BCG as was in tree of trader (grandfather?). IRC convo, was told to find better inviter.

-Banned on HDBits when seedboxes were newish for 'stats cheating'. Convo and proof of seedbox, re-enabled.

-Banned on TheBox. Worst reason ever: using a shared seedbox. I had also asked on the forum if using a shared seedbox was ok and was told yes. Not re-enabled but I was annoyed as I had uploaded a few TB's on the shared seedbox before they banned me. I felt this was unfair.
 
grow4dough said:
the community is made up of individuals each with their own story that will paint a clearer overall picture. im sorry if common sense has eluded you and you do not understand that. also, i dont give a fuck what you want in this thread, i saw other people post their stories so i posted mine. have a great day, and please give me your opinion more, i care deeply about what you want.
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I started an "Original Bitch" thread in the Lounge: http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-lounge-10/t-original-bitch-thread-385139

Perhaps that will be more to your liking...:console:
 
My thanks to the last 3 posters. I appreciate you looking at this as a community issue.

I am certainly not advocating that sites and their staff should give up any of their rights. I am simply pondering whether or not there is something that can/should be done in the community.

There are a lot of people who use BT. Some of them chose to break rules. However, there are those (few) who do fall through the cracks. Some of these people take every opportunity (even if is expressly stated as unwelcome) to spew venom at that site. Injustice stings. A lot. I can tell you details of every traffic citation I have ever received that I feel was bogus. I won't do that though.

When we look at the individual cases, there really is not a whole lot of sympathy we can muster. However, something like this poll can shed some light on the possibility of errors in the system.

Take it for what it's worth, but I see some potential here. Or, people can just bitch, ineffectively...
 
The poll asks quite a difficult question. I think that for certain situations, it's hard to define what's fair and what's unfair, so I won't vote for any option given in the poll.
 
the poll options are not clear. If someone was only ever banned for cause, they would qualify for option 2) No i have not (been UNFAIRLY banned) and option 3) banned for my own fault. Further, option 4 doesn't specify whether it refers to reinstatement after a fair or an unfair banning.
 
Banned never, only disabled for inactivity after a long period without dsl. I don't understand how can someone get banned "unfairly" from a tracker? It has to be because he broke some kind of rule.
 
It does ask for one's opinion, OlegL. If people feel they were unjustly treated, that's one thing. I see some value in knowing how large that population is. And, from what we are seeing, it is a SUBSTANTIAL part of the community.

I just don't want all of the individual stories to cloud that information. FAR more people want to complain about something than say everything is ok. There is no story when everything has gone well, it is a BIG story when thing go "wrong".

If you believe you were unfairly banned, you should vote. You also have the other options. Pick the one that fits best with your situation.

BTW, this is not saying that the community (trackers) has done a bad job. A member may have been on 100 trackers over the years, but only got banned once. That is a fantastic record, but the experience did happen AT LEAST THE ONE TIME. I am curious how many have had that particular experience. Maybe it will tell us something, maybe not.
 
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