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...additional details)? My friend had written these points in response to someone else and I thought they were really good, something i've never thought of before.
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In the case of God though, he gives us freewill our whole lives, then our consequence is damnation if we dont turn to him. Its not like if we mess up once "oh ok now your going to Hell". He gives us our whole lives to make the choice and trys to guide us along the way. God shouldnt be "ideal" to human standards, hes God, and whether you believe in Him or not a being of that level is probably on a whole diffrent plain of thinking than our mortal minds, so to attempt to fully reason everything out is futile in my opinion.

As far as in the case of someone doing right...Im sure there are alot of criminal masterminds, murders and the like that have thought they were doing "right". Im pretty sure Hitler thought he was doing some right in killing millions of Jews, but I think its safe to say it was not right in any sense of the word
And then theres a whole diffrent problem with that line of thinking as well...if someone gets to go to heaven based on "doing right" or "thinking that their doing right" how on earth is anyone supposed to know if they meet the bar by the time they die? Should we tally up every good thing and every bad thing weve done and whatever outweighs which determines where we go?

Then that line of thinking brings yet another problem...What is right, and what is bad? Is it simply defined by the majority of society, by a book, by what?

As I've said before, we live in an age where truth is considered "relative" by the majority and that no absolute exist. While Im a firm believer in doing what you want and having your own opinions, that fact is, there has to be absolute truths....truth can not always be releative...their has to be somthing at the end of the day that will not change.
And personally, based on my experience, the evidence ive seen and read and felt, I believe that truth is found within God, and his son Jesus. You are obviously free to have your own interpretations of absolute truth or whether or not it exists.
 
Just to think that everyone is hung up on all the physical deaths recorded in the bible. Spiritual death is much worse.
 
we are denied the right to believe as we will the presence of GOD . we are called atheist because we refuse to agree with todays teaching of history. and if we call god by any other name we are going to hell . and this is all built up in Rome and the proof is in our own history books . all you have to do is a little research .I for one will die and go to hell before i bow before a church that condemns any one because of there belief in seeing the facts .
 
Does God really give you free will?

Does a person with faith have the same mind as a person without faith? Is it even possible for some people to have faith?

Basically, your brain is what controls your decisions. And your brain was created by God, neuron by neuron.
 
What was the question bubba?
Christians believe they know the truth for everyone. I don't believe anyone knows the truth for everyone.
Christians judge others according to that which they believe, I judge others according to what they believe.
I could care less if someone is a Christian but when someone claims to be a good moral truthful honest person and then it transpires that they are full of chit, then I feel perfectly justified to say, Liar, wanker, hypocrite.
But if someone says, he I'm a weak man, I cheat on my wife, I lie, steal and kick my dog, and it transpires that he does these things, then I say, hey what a wanker that guy is, and spend my time avoiding him. But at least he is honest.
I distest the moral high ground stance Christians take, especially in the American Media, we are wholesome American Christians, with 2 kids, and no skeletons in the closet, then a month later the guy is caught on camera blowing some male rent boy on a park bench.
'Oh I had a moment of weakness, Jesus will forgive me.' He says.
Its all too easy, corrupted and sleazy for my liking.
The image is what people want to be, but they ain't it.
They are liars along with the rest.
 
All true.

If there is no such thing as objectively right and wrong then there would be nothing REALLY wrong with me torturing sexy's parents. It would simply be a case of disgreement. If there is no real right and wrong, then how dare we make laws and social contracts pretending that there is!
 
Some of your points are valid..You could clear your doubts by Reading Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch
 
As Jesus himself said: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.”—Mt 7:21.

John 17:3 :Â*"This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ."

A correct translation of the greek means "accurate knowledge" epi gnossis.

To know Christ accurately, you may be delighted to read 1Corinthians 15:20-28.

A deep insight into his future plans is shown there.

Phillipians 2:5-11 defines it even further for us:
"Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, 6Â*who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. 7Â*No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and came to be in the likeness of men. 8Â*More than that, when he found himself in fashion as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient as far as death, yes, death on a torture stake. 9Â*For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name, 10Â*so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, 11Â*and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father."
 
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