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I have a 50 gal. acrylic tank. It currently has 4 common fantil goldfish in it. Common fantails were developed in America. They are the only fancy tailed breed that truly can compeet with faster single tailed varieties in aquariums and ponds. They are NOT Ryukins (also known as Japanese fantails). Common fantails are the smallest breed of goldfish, eventhough some have been crossed with ryukins. Ryukins tend to be larger and slower than common fantails. Common fantails are sold as tiny 1 in. fish in stores. But they will be 4 to 6 inches when fully grown. Although there are some sources that say the record for this breed was 10 in. Ryukins on average can reach 8 to 10 inches. No word on records for this breed. And other breeds of goldfish can be even larger. The fantils I have are between 1 and 2in. They are all common fantails. They say all glodfish are fine with other species, as long as they are not small enugh for them to eat. Or slow enough for goldfish to catch. And I am well aware of the fact even one fancy gold fish needs 10 gal. of water to be happy and even one single tailed variety needs at least 20 gal. to be happy. I also know each additional goldfish (wheather it is a fancy tail or a single tail) needs at least an additional 10 gallpns to be happy. And I know goldfish need a tank rather than a bowl. And that the tank should be a long tank rather than a high one for all goldfish to give them the swimming room enough to be happy. That is why I got a long 50 gal. tank. And according to what I have learned my setup is fine for the goldfish I have.
The question I have is in reguard to anther spcies of fish I decided to place with thesegoldfish. I recently ordered 2 red neon moon fish, a member of the large and growing familly of moon fish.
Here is the little of what I know of the red neon moon fish and platies. Moon fish are evidenly a breed of platy fish. I got the red neons because a very good web site on fish stated Variatus could be placed with goldfish. I heard from various other sites this species is the same as a moon fish. Perhaps I got confused somewhere. However, reguardless of any possible confusion, I have two red neon moon fish on the way. The red neons can grow to be 2 to 3 in. They are live bearers. They say these small fish are peacful arround other fish and are hardy. They say palties are fast fish too. They also have simillar enough diets to goldfish that they can share some of the same foods. Just monitor them when you feed them to be sure the fish get their share of the propper flake foods. Palties evidenly have small mouths. And because of this they should only be fed flake foods for tropical fish. Although they, like the goldfish, can also eat small freezdried items and live plant items. Freeze dried Blood worms, freeze dried brine shrimp, blanched lettuce, and blanched spinach are asll items that can b fedo both palties and goldfish. Palties also enjoy planted aquariums with some swimming space, just as goldfish do. And goldfish swimm at all leves of the tank, so do platies. And I hear both species can survie in a compatible temperature range of 75 to 78 degrees.
Yet there are some things no one told me about when I ordered the beautiful little red neon moon fish. Moon fish are evidenly a member of the same familly as platies. And well, platies can have baies when they are no more than 2 months old! I have also heard they can change thier sex!! So having two or more platies in the same tank can lead to baby fish (something I was not aware of when I purchased the recomended pair I ordered. OOPS!!! My bad.). Furthermore, I discovered palties can have 250+ babies in one brood!!! And they can have one brood every month!!!! (Oh No! Argh!!!! Too . . . Many . . . Fish!) I have heard you can adopt out the babies, sell them (or donate them) to pet stores, or donate them to the science department at schools. They seem to do well in outdoor ponds in warm climates, where larger fish an natural predators eat them naturally (which helps controll their population). Ihave even heard they cab be used as feeder fish. Sort of like the fate of many live brine shrimp that are fed to fish. Using these beautiful little moon fish as feeder fish is a sad fate. But concindering there can be 250+ babies EVERY month of EVERY year . . . It may be they only way to controll their popullations, if no one eles will take them (or has room and money enough to take them). If the fish I ordered survive and have ospring, I will do what I can to ensure their survival and find someone to take them. Just as I will the original pair of them. They are beautiful little fish. They would be fine if kept by themselves, or in a tank with other fish that are not platies, swordtails, or Variatus. Perhaps guppies and tetras could work well with red noen moon fish, scince they too are small and generally peaceful with other fish species. (But do not take my word for it on this info. here. I am new to platies and moon fis
The question I have is in reguard to anther spcies of fish I decided to place with thesegoldfish. I recently ordered 2 red neon moon fish, a member of the large and growing familly of moon fish.
Here is the little of what I know of the red neon moon fish and platies. Moon fish are evidenly a breed of platy fish. I got the red neons because a very good web site on fish stated Variatus could be placed with goldfish. I heard from various other sites this species is the same as a moon fish. Perhaps I got confused somewhere. However, reguardless of any possible confusion, I have two red neon moon fish on the way. The red neons can grow to be 2 to 3 in. They are live bearers. They say these small fish are peacful arround other fish and are hardy. They say palties are fast fish too. They also have simillar enough diets to goldfish that they can share some of the same foods. Just monitor them when you feed them to be sure the fish get their share of the propper flake foods. Palties evidenly have small mouths. And because of this they should only be fed flake foods for tropical fish. Although they, like the goldfish, can also eat small freezdried items and live plant items. Freeze dried Blood worms, freeze dried brine shrimp, blanched lettuce, and blanched spinach are asll items that can b fedo both palties and goldfish. Palties also enjoy planted aquariums with some swimming space, just as goldfish do. And goldfish swimm at all leves of the tank, so do platies. And I hear both species can survie in a compatible temperature range of 75 to 78 degrees.
Yet there are some things no one told me about when I ordered the beautiful little red neon moon fish. Moon fish are evidenly a member of the same familly as platies. And well, platies can have baies when they are no more than 2 months old! I have also heard they can change thier sex!! So having two or more platies in the same tank can lead to baby fish (something I was not aware of when I purchased the recomended pair I ordered. OOPS!!! My bad.). Furthermore, I discovered palties can have 250+ babies in one brood!!! And they can have one brood every month!!!! (Oh No! Argh!!!! Too . . . Many . . . Fish!) I have heard you can adopt out the babies, sell them (or donate them) to pet stores, or donate them to the science department at schools. They seem to do well in outdoor ponds in warm climates, where larger fish an natural predators eat them naturally (which helps controll their population). Ihave even heard they cab be used as feeder fish. Sort of like the fate of many live brine shrimp that are fed to fish. Using these beautiful little moon fish as feeder fish is a sad fate. But concindering there can be 250+ babies EVERY month of EVERY year . . . It may be they only way to controll their popullations, if no one eles will take them (or has room and money enough to take them). If the fish I ordered survive and have ospring, I will do what I can to ensure their survival and find someone to take them. Just as I will the original pair of them. They are beautiful little fish. They would be fine if kept by themselves, or in a tank with other fish that are not platies, swordtails, or Variatus. Perhaps guppies and tetras could work well with red noen moon fish, scince they too are small and generally peaceful with other fish species. (But do not take my word for it on this info. here. I am new to platies and moon fis