Giganews is ****'ing up Usenet

This has gotten so out of hand the last few days, that the tsunami of crud has begun to affect just about every news-server on the planet.

There have been some who were saying that things were 'settling down' on Giganews after a few hours, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I did some pretty detailed analysis of headers (or lack thereof) on several high and low volume newsgroups on their server in the last couple of days...

And it's so hosed, it isn't funny anymore. :wacko:

Did all of their senior people take an extended post-labor day holiday, or what?!?

This is rapidly becoming a major 'gap' in usenet retention, that may exist as a 'sink hole' for months, just like the 'gaps' back circa late 2008 when several plants were first ramping up major retention pushes.

And yes, it's affecting the major nzb folks like binsearch, nzbindex, newzleecher et. al.

WHAT A MESS!
 
Hypatia said:
Actually dont blame all giganews. Astraweb is working not so good recently as well(with headers).
You see them as complete in a newsreader but when u actually download them u get lots of "not found on server".
Astraweb has started to process uploaded data quite slow..
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I just said they were having issues, Astraweb is always been like this you can one bad week out of 6 months and people think it's the end of Usenet, jesus. If it's bad on Astraweb it will be bad on the rest, why? The "posters" use Astraweb and it propogates from there, bad on one end it will be on there end to....
 
Newzleech seems to be bringing up the rear on getting headers 'filled in', for whatever reason.

Binsearch and others seem to be attacking things pretty pro-active, but that doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory. Lots I was trying to get this last week, went perfect using the posted nzb (on Astra), but there are still major gaps in the nzb's done by the 'auto' folks, and from what I can figure out Giganews is still a bit wacky, in that the headers are actually all there (if one gets them), yet services 'down-stream' from them still have major gaps and such.

LIke I've said before, these nzb generator folks (Newzleech, Beinsearch, etal) need to be serious about being 'fed' my multiple servers. Relying on simply Giganews (or for that matter any other single server, as Astra has had it's fades as well), is asking for trouble.
 
The big problem/issue I started seeing with GN, is that too many folks 'downstream' from them, either peers as other newsgroup providers, or as nzb vacuums like Newzleech, Binsearch,even Newzbin, et. al,, are (because of the way they have set themselves up) simply too dependent on GN as a whole.

It's great when everything runs 100%; however, in looking back over the 'gaps' of the last week on GN, although it appears that some of them have been 'filling in', most if not all of when it started going off the tracks (sometime around the 15th of September), those gaps haven't really 'filled in' at all. Note that this includes both the us and eu servers.

I'd say this should, 'should', give the operators (those mentioned above) a bit of a pause, to re-think their operations.
 
Slight bit of an update this morning (still a little sleepy so hold on a bit), but in doing some minimal A/B/C on GN/Astra/Usenet-News, GN is still doing some (relativity) minor 'skips' from things posted on either Astra or Usenet-News, but are 100% on both Astra and U-N.

Shows that either the link between GN and the other two is still a bit dodgy, or GN plant is, take your pick. But it is somewhat 'minor', at least in the groups I checked. Doesn't mean that there isn't one out there (figuring it's the GN plant that's still the problem, and not a transmission failure), that's got major problems.
 
Despite the severity of the problem, overall I don't really think it will hurt Giganews bottom-line much, since I presume few downloaders use headers these days and probably few text users subscribe to Giganews.

But header users are going to be really pissed if they end up re-downloading the whole 750 days of headers on a big group. (some newsreaders will let you re-download, for instance, the last 20 days of headers using a different server while keeping the older ones intact, but most don't) And Newsleecher users are up in arms because Supersearch (a pay service) is now useless on recent posts.

This just adds more fuel to the fire over the argument of whether Giganews is worth the extra money.
 
gee, smart boy, uh?

Ive been using using usenet more than 10 years

Pars wont help you in many cases when propagation of uploaded posts is severely fucked up and u ahve to wait for quite a long time for it to become completed.
Every day for a certain period of time starting at a certain hour astrawebs propagation is fucked up influencing everyone

We've also seen a propagation
>issue coming out of a Euro provider that appears to be affecting every
>other Usenet provider
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just s small hint in the direction of "euro provider" from giganews. :D

yeah, $11 a month! Come and get some piece of sweet astraweb ass, dogs!
Now we have an army of $11 lemmings screwing things up for all usenet
since astraweb seems not to have enough dough coming of ur credit cards and paypal accounts to fix the issue . =)))

Thats ur cheap usenet access.
HERE FINALLY COMES THE DAY WE ALL PAY, M!THERF!CKERS! LOL
 
Hypatia said:
gee, smart boy, uh?

Ive been using using usenet more than 10 years

Pars wont help you in many cases when propagation of uploaded posts is severely fucked up and u ahve to wait for quite a long time for it to become completed.
Every day for a certain period of time starting at a certain hour astrawebs propagation is fucked up influencing everyone

just s small hint in the direction of "euro provider" from giganews. :D

yeah, $11 a month! Come and get some piece of sweet astraweb ass, dogs!
Now we have an army of $11 lemmings screwing things up for all usenet
since astraweb seems not to have enough dough to fix the issue coming of ur credic cards and paypal accounts. =)))

Thats ur cheap usenet access.
HERE FINALLY COMES THE DAY WE ALL PAY, M!THERF!CKERS! LOL
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i liek tpb! LoL
 
Its astraweb that fuckings everything up, Alot of incomplete uploads today, This has been going on for a few months now, Posts aren't propergating.

One hour it can be fine, Then the next incomplete heaven.
 
Thank you for starting this thread, this really does beg the question is Giganews worth the extra cost and perhaps to a slim few it is worth it, but surely that is only the case while their service is working correctly and frankly at Giganews prices my newsreader better not experience so much as a fart from their servers, in fact due to the fact that they are experiencing corrupt headers that should be a clear message for others to run from Giganews and go with any other provider on earth. Do yourself a favor and save some money with any other NSP that is not overpriced and is not delivering corrupted content.
 
I never had much issues with Astraweb or Giganews, when I was on Giganews Diamond Account a long time ago. The only thing I have had problems with Astraweb was a slow down in speed on one of their servers. Apparently, it was short lived because it is working fine now. Also, I use Newsbin Pro 5 64bit and sometimes when I download a new file only minutes old, it will kick them out into the "Failed Files" tab. I simply put them back in the download cue and it works, only had this happen a few times. So who knows what happened...
 
'worth the cost' is one of those infinite questions. I used GN for many many years, with a block account with Astra for fills, and never had much of any problems until around late 2008.

That got me to re-evaluate things, and as a result, took up Astra on their $11 deal and never looked back. But then I started seeing gaps and such on Astra, so got a Usernet-News block account. Still, of course, lower cost that GN.

Now, lots of folks like the VPN deal, but since I already have a much better VPN provider (worldwide), it's a moot issue with me. As long as things don't go seriously 'off the tracks' with Astra (knock on wood), I'm a happy camper. I keep a pretty close eye on all the majors, and this latest veering off the road is the most major screw-up I've seen since 2008... and as of this afternoon, there are still some 'echos' of it going on in Giganews-land (still some gaps, where there are no gaps in any other server I can see).

So, it does, or should, make folks think a bit. I have a dozen or so major 'fades' linked out on Giganews I'll continue to take a look at over the next few days, and see it they are 'repaired' in any way or fashion.
 
Yep. SO true,man
id seriously recommend efnet guys to have a backup giganews account for posting if astraweb starts getting fucked up again.
This is getting ridiculous
 
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