Hesham Al-Rousan
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No, it's Giganews, verified with several other folks on different boards, and it is Newsgroup specific.
Giganews a bit Wobbly,Upgrading?
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No, it's Giganews, verified with several other folks on different boards, and it is Newsgroup specific.
a_man_could_stand
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Don't know if anyone else noticed, but there was a couple of postings this weekend that, although they were 'verified' as complete by Newzbin (and I went to Binsearch to verify as well), that were missing tons of parts of Giganews.
I eventually kinda gave up, as usually I don't 'jump' on things right away, but these were high on my 'get ' list. I looked around to Astraweb and a couple of other servers, and the parts were all there (have very old block accounts still active, so can get headers easily enough).
This GN variable parts availability I've run into before, when I complained to GN, got the usual "we have no problems" response, although the missing bits were very rampant on their system. A few days layter, they would be 'filled in'.
I think I'm, along with lots of other GN users, looking VERY close at their operation, paying top dollar for sometimes variable service, and I think it's because of the way they upgrade their storage systems.
Oh well, it's just a time waster, to find out in the morning that the d/l you had running all night spent most of the time accomplishing... nothing.
I eventually kinda gave up, as usually I don't 'jump' on things right away, but these were high on my 'get ' list. I looked around to Astraweb and a couple of other servers, and the parts were all there (have very old block accounts still active, so can get headers easily enough).
This GN variable parts availability I've run into before, when I complained to GN, got the usual "we have no problems" response, although the missing bits were very rampant on their system. A few days layter, they would be 'filled in'.
I think I'm, along with lots of other GN users, looking VERY close at their operation, paying top dollar for sometimes variable service, and I think it's because of the way they upgrade their storage systems.
Oh well, it's just a time waster, to find out in the morning that the d/l you had running all night spent most of the time accomplishing... nothing.
Looking forward
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Thing of it is, it's been a very long time since I used, for instance, AstraWeb, enough to not know that they don't occasionally do the same thing today. I made the plunge for Giganews about 3+ years ago when I simply got tired of chasing after fills.
99% of the time, it's great, if a bit steep coin wise. But like I said, every once in a while... Unfortunately, the 'try it' periods (free or nearly free) on others isn't enough to really know (over time) that it's any better. Maybe I'll simply have to, if I've really got a burr in my saddle, is to watch them REAL close the next time I see even a small blip with Giganews.
Well, it's been going on for a couple of days now, think I'll send a note to GN, but I know beforehand what the response will be...
punk*rocker*chick
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I'm downloading things that are 213 days old
And you apparently don't realize that EACH newsgroup is a separate entity, both in the usenet realm and the disc space it takes up on the server...??? Tell us which group that is, apparently the Giganews folks have decided that it's more important than other groups for retention.
BTW, Giganews is still skipping parts, parts that Astraweb (just to drop a name) isn't.
deutschesprache38
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I've yet to have any problems with incompletes unless the poster fucked it up or something. I download 350+GB each month but maybe I download the "right" stuff 
a.b.multimedia
a.b.tvseries
a.b.movies.divx
a.b.boneless
More?
Besides I just told you that I'm downloading post that are over 200 days old from various groups, so that answer's your question, sounds like the groups in question have drive questions and/or could be Giganews is upgrading or having server issues.
I'm not stupid....... just grabbed season 1,2,3 of BSG from there and the Scifi one too, and they were all over 200 days.
I'm sure I can dig into Newsbin's log info and grab more if I still have the data...I only failed one file and it dropped 1 .rar file out 256 .rar files. The post was merely 90 days old.
Don't forget Giganews is upgrading too...so take that into consideration. It's most likely the 'cause.
a.b.tvseries
a.b.movies.divx
a.b.boneless
More?
Besides I just told you that I'm downloading post that are over 200 days old from various groups, so that answer's your question, sounds like the groups in question have drive questions and/or could be Giganews is upgrading or having server issues.
I'm not stupid....... just grabbed season 1,2,3 of BSG from there and the Scifi one too, and they were all over 200 days.
I'm sure I can dig into Newsbin's log info and grab more if I still have the data...I only failed one file and it dropped 1 .rar file out 256 .rar files. The post was merely 90 days old.
Don't forget Giganews is upgrading too...so take that into consideration. It's most likely the 'cause.
Sit down while you read this:
"Thank you for your patience while we looked into this for you. This issue should now be resolved.
Thanks again and please let us know if you have any further problems.
--
James
Giganews Support"
Yep. Things do seem to be running better today, no gaps on either 'new' stuff or the usual backlog of nzb's I have a machine grinding away on.
Will of course keep a close eye on things; the bandwidth I have (fairly low but okay) means that it's bad when that machine grinds away all night long getting 'message not found'.
But it does make me, like some others here, think about saving the $15/month and going with Astraweb, for one. I'll continue to think about it.
"Thank you for your patience while we looked into this for you. This issue should now be resolved.
Thanks again and please let us know if you have any further problems.
--
James
Giganews Support"
Yep. Things do seem to be running better today, no gaps on either 'new' stuff or the usual backlog of nzb's I have a machine grinding away on.
Will of course keep a close eye on things; the bandwidth I have (fairly low but okay) means that it's bad when that machine grinds away all night long getting 'message not found'.
But it does make me, like some others here, think about saving the $15/month and going with Astraweb, for one. I'll continue to think about it.
Possible (the upgrading), but I've come to the conclusion is poor peering.
I used one of my old 'techniques' from back at the dawn of time (1994 or so, when I ran a usenet server plant), posting a test message on another server and seeing how long it took to propagate to Giganews.
Since I still have some leftover bits (for fills) from before I went with GN 3+ years ago, on around 3-4 servers out there, I simply sent a small message from each one of them, and then waited until it showed up on GN.
Uh.... out of the 4 messages I sent (from Astraweb, Usenet-News, and two others), five days ago, the only one to get through was from Astraweb. The message(s) came through just fine to the others (i.e., sent from Usenet-News, got 1 min. later on Astraweb). Sill waiting on GN.
I think 5 days lag time means something is wrong with the peering, not the storage.
So, I'm taking this 'opportunity' to start the process of moving to Astraweb. Their plant seems MUCH more stable, and what, I'll save %14/month? Sounds good to me. As an additional bonus, from me to the Astraweb server is only 10 hops, with an avg. delay of some 120ms, vrs. GN at 22 hops, and >300ms delay.
The Astraweb figures are very much like GN 'was' 3 years ago, when they were located in Phoenix; now that they are in the tech corridor around Hearndon, VA, the bits have to crawl across the entire continent.
So, I'll see if those test messages EVER get into GN. At 5+ days now, I doubt it. I've already sent a couple more, one of them got there, the other is like the first, 'lost in usenet space'.
I used one of my old 'techniques' from back at the dawn of time (1994 or so, when I ran a usenet server plant), posting a test message on another server and seeing how long it took to propagate to Giganews.
Since I still have some leftover bits (for fills) from before I went with GN 3+ years ago, on around 3-4 servers out there, I simply sent a small message from each one of them, and then waited until it showed up on GN.
Uh.... out of the 4 messages I sent (from Astraweb, Usenet-News, and two others), five days ago, the only one to get through was from Astraweb. The message(s) came through just fine to the others (i.e., sent from Usenet-News, got 1 min. later on Astraweb). Sill waiting on GN.
I think 5 days lag time means something is wrong with the peering, not the storage.
So, I'm taking this 'opportunity' to start the process of moving to Astraweb. Their plant seems MUCH more stable, and what, I'll save %14/month? Sounds good to me. As an additional bonus, from me to the Astraweb server is only 10 hops, with an avg. delay of some 120ms, vrs. GN at 22 hops, and >300ms delay.
The Astraweb figures are very much like GN 'was' 3 years ago, when they were located in Phoenix; now that they are in the tech corridor around Hearndon, VA, the bits have to crawl across the entire continent.
So, I'll see if those test messages EVER get into GN. At 5+ days now, I doubt it. I've already sent a couple more, one of them got there, the other is like the first, 'lost in usenet space'.
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on their website it say their rentention is going to be under 240days until they upgrade their hardware again
I really think it has something to do with their peering, which would directly affect the propagation.
I'd spend some time going further researching the problem (I ran a usenet server plant 1994-96), but I've given the Giganew folks my considered opinion, for what's it's worth. The return emails have been basically 'canned' responses.
As I pointed out in an earlier posting on this thread, I've seen this going on for around 8+ months, comes and goes. This time has been just about the worst. When I first tripped across it this time (several days ago), there were massive 'skips' on a binary group, that, as of today, those parts are STILL not on their server.
But are on every other server I have access to (3-5). I've started moving over to Astraweb, it'll probably take a couple weeks to really test and make up my final mind; the $15/month savings, if Astraweb has no probs (and so far, throughput is 3-4 times FASTER than Giganews, due to them being much closer 'internet wise' to my location) will enter in to it.
I've had no problem in my few months of uploading and downloading, but were probably not using the same groups, and I'm switching to Astraweb, the price is too good to pass up, I might loose my retention for awhile, but I can live with that. The servers are the same distance for me, so I'll still be middle ground, but I much rather pay alot cheaper than more expensive, and SSL is free through Astraweb if I read it right.