George Lucas.......A great director? COUGH

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Now as you all know, i am not a fan of the Star Wars series at all what so ever. I just can't for the sake of myself like these movies. I mean if there is any series in which the flaws are more obviously shown then it is the Star Wars movies.

George Lucas is a very medicore filmmaker at best, but he cares more about the technical side of the movie then the characters or the script and lets not forget the crap crap crap crap crap crap crap acting :rolleyes: . I mean the Star Wars prequals have to be the most pointlss movies ever made. Okay so what if George planned Star Wars to have 6 or seven episodes? He could've just kept it in his head instead of torturing us with his poor excuse for a prequal trilogy.

However, it should come as some surprise to see that the middle chapter of the original series is the best out of all of them, it is better directed, better written and most importantly of all its actors are far better! However i guess it is not all that surprising that ESB is the best.........Since it is directed by someone else :rolleyes: . And it should come as no shock to anybody to see that this is the only Star Wars movie i actually really like.

I mean if their is further evidence to show how good ESB is, in 1997 when Lucas was creating the special editions with changes to the series.........He made the least changes with ESB because it was technologically still surperb then......some 15 years later.

And heres a little info that you lot might find interesting-



Read the rest here- http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/376/376873p1.html

And thank God i say that Lucas didn't control that director.......Otherwise we would've ended up with another muppet in space movie :rolleyes: .

I mean okay maybe i am being a bit too harsh on Lucas.........But he is the MOST OVERRATED director i have ever seen. No matter which forum i go on every body seems to lick his a*se as if honey was dropping out of it. And he should count himself lucky to be this millionare director because god knows if he was to release Star Wars in this decade i doubt it would have been as well recieved as it was back in the 70's. As my American friend would say, "He is one lucky motherf***er" :p .

Here is a funny quote that i found in a review of the series-



So true........So true...........And what is George's fasination with muppets? :confused: ......... And boys say LOTR and HP are camp? I mean hello watch the end of JEDI RETURNS and you'll know what camp means. I couldn't stop laughing personally lol. :D
 
George Lucas may not be a great director but when he made the original Stars Wars he was unique and prepared to explore where others wouldn't. I remember going to see Star Wars in the late 70's and being in complete awe as there had been nothing like it ever. Star Wars made fantasy/sci-fi more widely acceptable and the world went sci-fi mad. When you think about it, the film came out less than 10 yrs after man landed on the moon so space mania was all around and this film was just what the 'space fan' had been waiting for - however now, they are ten to the penny.
 
First and foremost - let's clear up the Clerks misquote:

It's actually:

Randal: Which did you like better Jedi or The Empire Strikes Back?
Dante: Empire.
Randal: Blasphemy!

(not pointing fingers lala - I know it wasn't you ;))

Secondly, I do agree that he's desperately overrated in terms of direction (although he does have vision - something that a lot of modern directors seem to have lost). That said, he has done some great movies...American Graffiti (1973) and THX 1138 (1971) are both classics in my book!
I think the major problem is what I term - 'The Spielburg Effect' - the passion for great direction is lost over the want for trinkets and tinkering; sometimes you have to leave things behind and move forwarRAB with new projects and end the remastering madness...
 
It does slightly concern me that, apparently, Lucas is re-writing the Indy 4 script...

The one that Ford and Spielberg*apporved, but Lucas didn't like...

God help us...

;)
 
shut the hell up - Lucas has done a GREAT deal for the film industry and has shaped and revolutionised cinema as we know it today.
You fools are ignorant and most of you will die without making anything remotely close to being a pop culture phenomeon like the the star wars saga has.

Idiots.
 
Wow... someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning!... ;)

I'd agree, he did manage to create a pop culture phenomeon. He's a very talented man (keeping hold of the merchandising right for Star Wars was genuinely a stroke of genius, and has helped build the brand into what it is today!) I personally don't think he's that bad a director... But his scripts and dialogue tend to suck, which is why I made the comment about Indy 4. Harrison's quote "You can write this sh1t, but you can't say it!" springs to mind. ;)

Directing, and being a movie mogul... yes...
Scriptwriting... not so much. :D
 
Harsh worRAB, but I have to agree :) . Star Wars totally turned around cinema and led to this obsession of creating 'blockbusters'. For me, Star Wars is timeless.
 
I'll never tire of Armeggeddon :D even for all the cheesy lines Willis gets to say .... I watched a doc on that and they said that Willis actually added a lot of the lines himself ... why does that not surprise me :D :D !!!
 
I personally think he'll be remembered as a great director although his greatness is based upon movies of the 70s. That's not to say he's not a good director these days - he is equally as good as many others - its just that he's not head and shoulders above them as he once was.
 
Have to disagree. The acting, while not oscar winning material, is certainly adequate for the type of film.

The same applies for the the script. Its perfectly okay. For me Star Wars is purely entertainment. rather like a rollarcoaster ride. You don't go for a ride on Nemesis at Alton Towers and complain about the lack of a CD player, or that its a bit windy, that it throws you about a bit and is nothing like your comfy car. :D .

Its also a bit like moaning about the lack of action sequances in say, The Shawshank Redemption. Horses for courses and all that.
 
How can you blame GL or Star Wars. Its the viewing public that watches them. Its the millions of film goers that elavated Star Wars to level it has become not George Lucas. He isn't responsible for the Star Wars obsession.

When the original Star Wars was released it wasn't classed as a 'blockbuster' and its the idiot viewers that are taken in by the hype that surrounRAB modern films.

Is George Lucas a great director, well who knows or who really cares. Some of his 'other' films are good, Star Wars are the biggest and most talked about films ever. I think that makes him damn lucky rather than great. :)
 
He's at it again! :D Analysis would take a long while, however, there are a few things I could nit-pick at. Static framing, unimaginative lighting setups (although with all the SFX that's hardly suprising), etc

I don't think he's a bad director (I have stated my appreciation for his two other big films earlier in the thread) - it's just that he has made so many changes after the fact, that you have to wonder what was so wrong with his 'vision' before hand... the tinkering must stop :D :)
 
I'd agree with that. The original Star Wars and THX1138 are pretty good directorially (if that's a word) IMO, it's only the weak dialogue that lets the former down, although the strong story and reasonably good cast makes up for it. The prequels sucked mostly because of the weak script, over complicated and not very interesting story, the weak characters, and poor casting (how Haydn Christiansen gets paid to act is beyond me), not because of the direction. I think any director would have struggled to produce anything worthwhile out of all that.

I do think Star Wars is overrated. Not that I don't like it, but when you see it topping polls of best film ever you have to question that. Then again, I've heard people talk about the Lord of the Rings films in that way, and compared to that Attack of the Clones was thriling (IMHO). :rolleyes:
 
Sorry, dirty (I may call you dirty, mayn't I?) I know it sounRAB as if I'm harping on about this (perish the thought!) but it's just one of these things which irks me.

You obviously know what a director does and can see their trademark signatures in films. Fine - if you say so-and-so is a bad/good director I have no quibble with that.

However, loaRAB of people criticise directors when it's their films they don't like (ie the stories). They're not actually talking about bad direction as such - just films they didn't like.

Right - I promise not to mention it again! :)

PS - re the "mayn't I" - I was trying to remember who used to say that. It was either Basil Brush or Patrick Troughton as Doctor Who. Age is catching up!
 
Of course you may call me Dirty if you wish (*filthy thoughts float through a psychologically disturbed mind*)

I agree with you that many people say bad direction when they actually mean something else, and it is a problem that should be sorted out - don't mind crotchety ol' me - keep up your good vigilance stu62 :)
 
Oh dear - do we need a lesson in 'smilies 101'? This symbol: :D : means that it's a joke - a laugh - a bit of a giggle if you will - not to be taken seriously - a flippant remark - nudge nudge wink wink say no more...
Calm down folks! Anyway - I think you'll find that it was Arwen1972 who mentioned it - I was merely agreeing ;) :D
 
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