Gas Prices...

courtt!

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The gas stations are run by the oil companies are in league with the car companies. Until they find a means to make hydrogen fuel so inexpensive as gasoline, it will not be released. Why? Well because the world is run by a handful of rich assholes who don't give a damn about what happens to the world ecosystem or anything else for that matter.
 
THE TRUTH OF WHY OIL IS GOING UP BELLOW AND WHY PEAK OIL IS A SCAM THE LONG TRUTH BUT THE TRUTH

haha actually all this crap we talked about is not the problem. I used to think like you and blame oil companies and speculators on wall-street driving it up or whatever other boogie man the media and friends told me to point the finger at and blame. If we are going to focus on truth however you will have to realize that very few people control this country and everything including the oil. Does it seem the lease bit odd to any of you that 911 the war in Iraq and high oil has happened this quick and all the events almost happening within a few years of each other? Here is the problem and this is the truth there really is no other explanation and many will be upset. What I will tell you VERY FEW people know about. Only maybe one tenth of one percent know this, but I am going to tell you. I have friends that have worked with oil in Alaska, and I have seen Lindsey William's interview which got very little response. NOTE: that Williams worked in Alaska so he is an INSIDER. My friends, and Williams have told me, and I believe them, that there is a ton of oil in Alaska still on the north slope. There is probably as much there as in Saudi Arabia according to mister Williams something like 10 trillion barrels. According to Mr. Williams there is enough oil there to keep the U.S. running for another 200 years JUST OFF ALASKA alone. Now the question is, well, why are they doing this? Henry Kissinger once said whoever controls the oil controls the world. See our currency is worth nothing it's just paper, the real world trade currency IS OIL. Everything is made from oil plastics, cars, toothbrushes agriculture etc. etc.So let's get down to business, back in the Nixon and Kissinger days, Kissinger went around to all the middle easter countries with a lot of OIL and made them a deal of course many knew he was traveling but they didn't know why. He SAID the U.S. will start buying your oil in mass quantities and we will make you wealthy with assets and power beyond your wildest dreams, BUT you have to do something for us in return. Firstly you have to make the standard in trading oil U.S. dollar based and you have to accept the weak U.S. dollars (though he didn't tell them the dollar would become weak lol). Secondly you have to pay so much of our NATIONAL DEBT off with a percent of the money you make in a year going to the WORLD BANK AND THE IMF to pay off the debt. Sign this contract and we will buy a ton of oil from you making you rich though. Most the countries signed the contracts......well......except 2 of them........you know what they are? Iraq and Iran. Iraq and Saddam had to be stopped because if they weren't the U.S. dollar would be worth about nothing and all oil would be traded in Euro's now to Europe and oil would be cheap because Iraq and Iran would be putting it on the market thus WAAYY less money would be being paid to the world bank on our debt since the other countries agreed to pay a percent on their income on it remember Kissinger's deal. NOW WE HAVE TO INVADE IRAN!!! It's not one of those questions like are we or aren't we, we ARE I 100% guarantee it. Iran has already talked about flooding the market with cheap oil to Europe in Euro's which would destroy the dollar completely and the bankers plan. So we have to invest out children and go into Iran they must be terminated. By the way the bankers tell OPEC what the U.S. will buy oil from them for ;) OPEC doesn't have much to say about it at all. So the national debt is getting higher and higher 9.5 trillion and guess who's gunna pay it? YOU! through your gas tank every time you fill up ;). It's basically an unknown TAX and debt to all American people since no matter what you buy it's oil related. Right now at 9.5 trillion the debt is like 32 thousand per person in the U.S.. So WE ARE IN DEBT right now haha. Guess who is making the real money in this oil then? CAN SOMEONE SAY INTERNATIONAL BANKERS LIKE DAVID ROCKEFELLER!!! The politicians are just there to make you feel good but the bankers have the power. Hey I guess there really is evil powerful people in the world jeez NO KIDDIN!!! video about it on youtube type in the Lindsey Williams

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Oil prices are high because the oil companies who make a profit of 15 BILLION dollars a day DO NOT FUCKING CARE ABOUT YOU OR ME, as long as they get fatty tax breaks.
 
No, the gas companies do not pay the majority well, since the actual majority of gas company employees are not the rig/pipe workers, but the gas station workers. Most rig/pipe workers, even natural gas or civil engineering get paid well anyways, actually most roughneck type work pays well. So, they pay basically the same as everyone else for the same type of work. Hell, loggers make 20-30 bucks an hour.
 
You should watch that interview with Lindsey Williams. Firstly I like to talk facts!!! Exxon Mobile is one of the largest companies in the world and has been posting record profits. There profits are not 15 billion a day though more like 40 billion a year. You can check their financial statements for that since they are publically traded and required by the SEC to post them. Your pointing your finger at the wrong people! Every item a chair a stereo a car has middle men making money along the way. So you take a stero it was made in china but the parts were made and put together then it was sold to a wholesaler who sold it to another bulk wholesaler that buys many items who thens sells them to wal-mart. This is an example!! The middle man in the oil scheme is the WORLD BANK AND THE IMF!!! They have posted making TRILLIONS more in their loans. Why? That's the deal that was made. The more net income they make in Saudi Arabia the more they have to pay on the debt of the loans they have and the national debt which they AGREED TO PAY ON IN THE CONTRACT. Basically though we are paying it since we are paying the middle east ;). Right now your being taxed and paying on our national debt to the world bank every time you fill up for gas, buy a piece of plastic, buy anything oil related which is everything!!!
 
Wasn't talking about the majority, so sorry DG. I was referring to the roustabout, roughneck, and production jobs, not gas station attendants. I don't see them as being a part of the gas/oil process any more than I consider the burgerflipper at McDonald's a 'chef'.

They just deliver the end product and take the money. It's a vital role, but is nothing compared to the people that discover the formations, fabricate the equipment, extract the crude/gas, and process it. It's apples to oranges. Underpaid apples to ridiculously overpaid oranges. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you. That's where I'm making my money, and you bet your ass I wouldn't do this work for less than what I'm making. It's far more dangerous than gas station jobs.

I just worked with a man that made 26k in January. One month. I saw the pay stub. And he was a vac truck operator which is still pretty low on the totem pole.

Tell me that's not good money. ;) That's 26k that trickles down to the end consumer.. And that's my point.
 
OK But everyone else disagrees with you.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8646744/

the top 10 major public oil companies have sold some $1.5 trillion worth of crude, pocketing profits of more than $125 billion.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11098458/

DALLAS - Exxon Mobil Corp. posted record profits for any U.S. company on Monday — $10.71 billion for the fourth quarter and $36.13 billion for the year — as the world’s biggest publicly traded oil company benefited from high oil and natural-gas prices and solid demand for refined products

Also, mr. so smart...I said OIL COMPANIES....AS IN MORE THAN ONE...SO YES, 1.5 trillion over a year is a lot fucking more than 40 billion a year.

Reading comprehension.

Use it.

Also, please try to use grammar and paragraph breaks.



Look who is all high and mighty now that he's a roughneck....

:tongue:

And they are still employees. If you don't consider them employees, then don't let them touch your vehicle. Or eat any food made by anyone other than a chef. Because that would make no sense. At all.

I think it would be funny if all minimum wage 'non employees' just up and quit one day.

My dad makes about 40 K in three months. Then he just chills out the rest of the year.
 
If you don't start using paragraphs I am going to ban your tinfoil hat wearing ass.

Next: you should check your facts and read a history book. Huessain wasn't in control of Iraq in the 1970's when you suggest he turned away the US offer for a contract. Secondly, Iraq, prior to the US invasion in 2002 was NOT trading oil. It was under a full fledged embargo. Iran lacks the capacity to produce the volume that would be required to make a major shift in how the market performs. Lastly, almost EVERY commodity market is traded in US dollars, not just oil.

But hey, your friends know a guy who's dog licked the ass of a man who worked for a chick who's sister bought clothes with a lady who's husband was fucking the secretary of the mid level manager of a medium sized oil company. You've got GREAT sources and even though your information is based on historical facts that are not only fictional, but are entirely impossible, we should listen to you huh!

Paragraphs. Use them.
 
My forefathers didn't die so I'd have to walk everywhere!

Seriously, I prefer riding my bike. You catch so much more on your bike than driving. Last week, I found an awesome Greek and Lebanese Restaurant that served the best Eggplant Parmesian EVAR.
 
Okay, firstly they had the embargo on Iraq only proves my point further. The embargo was placed on them for fear of them placing cheap oil on the market. It doesn't really matter who was in charge I know that there was a contract by the Nixon administration. Secondly the tin foil hat is not original at all being used against so called conspiracy theorists. Three I don't care that most people disagree with me and especially I don't care if it's the news. Most the news we get is owned by only 4 or 5 corporations FOX,NBC,CNN,PBS. Many of them are owned by VERY FEW people like Rupert Murdock who is the major shareholder of FOX so I trust them about 0%. Lastly I thought this site was about free speech was it not? Who cares if someone speaks in non paragraph format? If you ban me then your a lier and contradicted what your own site is all about.
 
Let's let that be a lesson to everyone. WTF.COM is not the United States of America and is not "about free speach"

As to the rest of what he tried to say: he's making up facts. He's claiming things happened on time lines that simply do NOT EXIST. Based on that alone his argument is suspect and is most likely crap.
 
*sigh*

Supply and Demand. Keep a steady supply that can meet demand and you can charge whatever the fuck people will be willing to pay to get it. Oil is in high demand, people will pay the price because they have to have it.

Ethanol is a joke. Farmers who are helping to supply the ethanol, guess what they use to fuel their big machines...oil, not their ethanol. Ethanol burns at 60% of the efficiency that gasoline does. So, although it may be cheaper, you will be filling up more often therefore breaking about even, or coming out a little worse. Also, ethanol fucks engines to shit. I just had to replace several parts in my engine because ethanol ruined them. Why did I have to get those parts replace? Because I was buying the cheap gas at discount gas stations, that would be why. Even though I was using 93 octane, at 10-15% ethanol, it was slowing ruining my engine.

For your reading pleasure:

http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2007/20070323.html

I really liked the second section, fourth paragraph. The whole article is a good read though.

Also,

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

Seems to me that Alaska and Georgia are the only two states that make less on a gallon of gas than the oil companies.

So, if oil companies only make $0.10 per gallon of gasoline, and are posting the profits that they are, how much then is the government making when the taxes that they get per gallon of gasoline are around twice what the oil companies get? Oh, and don't say that Dubya is to blame either, gas taxes listed there are on a state level, not federal. The one you can blame on the federal level is the $0.184 cent per gallon tax, and that you can thank the legislative branch for doing, and Dubya for passing.
 
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