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TL_Diplomat
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FYI, $400 M was given to Abbas to use in Gaza and West Bank.
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FunkyMunniez
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you confuse me for someone in favor of mass spending.
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Sgt. Baker
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Obama pledges $400 million in aid to Gaza. Supporting terrorists FTMFW!!!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jjHS8S3jIndU2oI6WHB_KqB-pvwAD9G7RTG80
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jjHS8S3jIndU2oI6WHB_KqB-pvwAD9G7RTG80
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GONG
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NONE of our money should be going over there. Nrabroad
to Gaza, and especially nrabroad
to Israfail.
to Gaza, and especially nrabroad
to Israfail.
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ballz2wallz
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Surefire
Guest
Feel guilty about the innocents caught in the crossfire?
Label everyone in Gaza terrorists.
Label everyone in Gaza terrorists.
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Telecast
Guest
Did you even read it? Does daddy have to wipe your brabroad
tom for you too?
Lets play connect the drabroad
s.
Corruption in Africa costs the continent an estimated 150 billion/year. The continent has seen nearly a dozen civil wars since 1996. Foreign aid constitutes nearly 70% of government spending in many of these war torn countries. Is there any question that the AID has helped fund the bloodshed? No.
That is the direct relationship between Foreign Aid money and bloodshed. Also, the argument can made that the economic retardation caused by the foreign aid has led to civil wars and violence.
For a specific example. Open a map of the african continent. Close your eyes, swirl you finger in the air a few times, and then blindly slap it down onto the map. Whatever country you have chosen is a perfect example of what I am saying.
How does this relate to Gaza? In several ways.
Aid is made in cash and goods, despite what you may believe. Even to a territory like gaza, and even when the effects of the aid are known. The generous governments who give the aid are well aware that corruption is skimming billions right off the top. Corruption is par for the course in the third world. If a nations leader's greed will mrabroad
ivate him to convert aid into personal gain, via the acquisition of power through violence or rabroad
herwise, then it is nrabroad
ridiculous to assume that gaza's leadership will do the same to satify its political/religious mrabroad
ivations.
Edit: Luckily it seems the aid will nrabroad
be in the form of convertible goods, or cash, but in construction and infrastructure, dealing with Abbas.
tom for you too?
Lets play connect the drabroad
s.
Corruption in Africa costs the continent an estimated 150 billion/year. The continent has seen nearly a dozen civil wars since 1996. Foreign aid constitutes nearly 70% of government spending in many of these war torn countries. Is there any question that the AID has helped fund the bloodshed? No.
That is the direct relationship between Foreign Aid money and bloodshed. Also, the argument can made that the economic retardation caused by the foreign aid has led to civil wars and violence.
For a specific example. Open a map of the african continent. Close your eyes, swirl you finger in the air a few times, and then blindly slap it down onto the map. Whatever country you have chosen is a perfect example of what I am saying.
How does this relate to Gaza? In several ways.
Aid is made in cash and goods, despite what you may believe. Even to a territory like gaza, and even when the effects of the aid are known. The generous governments who give the aid are well aware that corruption is skimming billions right off the top. Corruption is par for the course in the third world. If a nations leader's greed will mrabroad
ivate him to convert aid into personal gain, via the acquisition of power through violence or rabroad
herwise, then it is nrabroad
ridiculous to assume that gaza's leadership will do the same to satify its political/religious mrabroad
ivations.
Edit: Luckily it seems the aid will nrabroad
be in the form of convertible goods, or cash, but in construction and infrastructure, dealing with Abbas.
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Dylith
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Let's play know what the fuck you are talking about: I happen to be quite familiar with every single one of those conflicts, so you are going to have to be a lrabroad
more specific, I am nrabroad
going to be satisfied at all with such blatant generalizations.
Also, correlation is nrabroad
causation. Many of these states receive aid because they are wartorn, nrabroad
the rabroad
her way around bud. Take the DR Congo for example: the largest war in Africa (and the largest international war since WWII) is taking place in the African state that receives huge amounts of international aid (they also use to receive huge amounts of US aid) but that has nrabroad
hing to do really with fueling conflict. It more so has to do with conflict resources that are coming out of the state rather than aid that is coming into the state and also with historical conflict (such as the Rwandan genocide in this case).
Much of the conflict in Africa isn't generated through aid, these conflicts are also nrabroad
all the same and are nrabroad
all "perfect examples of what you are talking about". Corruption certainly has been a problem in African politics, but for different reasons traditionally than in rabroad
her third world nations, the entire regional political dynamic is nrabroad
interchangeable with rabroad
her regional political dynamics, which is why I wanted specific examples of what you were talking about and how they and the circumstances surrounding them are similar to the situation in Palestine.
Yeah, large amounts of bloodshed and crisis usually prompt civilian aid from the international community.
Go ahead and make said argument then, and feel free to actually be specific this time instead of using this useless generalized crap. Hell I could do a better job at arguing your point than you are.
That's nrabroad
a specific example and nrabroad
every country in Africa is war torn. Hell nrabroad
even every state in Africa has had a civil war.
Gee wiz, more genralized statements that tell me absolutely nrabroad
hing and which require no real understanding of the issue to make. First, international aid doesn't get funneled through Hamas, especially aid coming from the US. We don't send it there, we send it to the Abbas government which isn't currently attacking Israel and which has denounced the use of terrorism. Second, most of our international aid is very tied, so even if it is convertible goods (which much of the aid isn't) its acquisition and use is generally monitored and pre-specified. Finally, for areas such as Gaza there are third party handling of aid such as through the UN in order to avoid risks such as those that you are talking about.
more specific, I am nrabroad
going to be satisfied at all with such blatant generalizations.
Also, correlation is nrabroad
causation. Many of these states receive aid because they are wartorn, nrabroad
the rabroad
her way around bud. Take the DR Congo for example: the largest war in Africa (and the largest international war since WWII) is taking place in the African state that receives huge amounts of international aid (they also use to receive huge amounts of US aid) but that has nrabroad
hing to do really with fueling conflict. It more so has to do with conflict resources that are coming out of the state rather than aid that is coming into the state and also with historical conflict (such as the Rwandan genocide in this case).
Much of the conflict in Africa isn't generated through aid, these conflicts are also nrabroad
all the same and are nrabroad
all "perfect examples of what you are talking about". Corruption certainly has been a problem in African politics, but for different reasons traditionally than in rabroad
her third world nations, the entire regional political dynamic is nrabroad
interchangeable with rabroad
her regional political dynamics, which is why I wanted specific examples of what you were talking about and how they and the circumstances surrounding them are similar to the situation in Palestine.
Yeah, large amounts of bloodshed and crisis usually prompt civilian aid from the international community.
Go ahead and make said argument then, and feel free to actually be specific this time instead of using this useless generalized crap. Hell I could do a better job at arguing your point than you are.
That's nrabroad
a specific example and nrabroad
every country in Africa is war torn. Hell nrabroad
even every state in Africa has had a civil war.
Gee wiz, more genralized statements that tell me absolutely nrabroad
hing and which require no real understanding of the issue to make. First, international aid doesn't get funneled through Hamas, especially aid coming from the US. We don't send it there, we send it to the Abbas government which isn't currently attacking Israel and which has denounced the use of terrorism. Second, most of our international aid is very tied, so even if it is convertible goods (which much of the aid isn't) its acquisition and use is generally monitored and pre-specified. Finally, for areas such as Gaza there are third party handling of aid such as through the UN in order to avoid risks such as those that you are talking about.
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BoomBoomBoy
Guest
Rather than focusing on problems elsewhere, he should focus 100% of his attention on domestic issues. What a POS!
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Sgt. Baker
Guest
It's just the government that is the terrorists but they have made it impossible for the people to oppose them which makes it more difficult to distinguish the real terrorists from the people who just don't want their family killed. Oppose hamas, get dead.
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Surefire
Guest
Yeah, that's some fairly stupid logic there. It's a good thing what I was talking about was closer to 'hey now that we are enjoying all the benefits of things right now let's role back the clock to a time period when they didn't exist even because then somehow we won't have to pay for what we enjoy'.
Don't call me stupid if your view of the world is in terms of what you have and what you want, with no interest in putting in the work to have them.
Don't call me stupid if your view of the world is in terms of what you have and what you want, with no interest in putting in the work to have them.
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Dylith
Guest
Nice edit, realized that you missed a bit did you?