Funi has Dragonball Kai (Confirmed)

Well, for people like me who prefer the original Dragon Ball and like the manga version of Z far more than the anime, I lean towarRAB Kai.

For new fans, it might be easier to slide in with Kai and if they want more material then they can get the Dragonbox stuff.

But I don't think they're as radically different as say FMA and FMA:B are. It's the same basic stuff, just with some different material and pacing.
 
Well dang, now I'm conflicted between picking this up or the Dragon Box.

I guess I'll wait and see if they bother redubbing the series at all, in which case it would make my purchase easier.
 
Yeah, in his afterlife appearances and the early Budokai games. And as bad as it was, even it was preferrable to his current Recoome.



Hey now, I said Linda Young sounded fine back in Season 3 (though it's hard to appreciate it with the terrible script), but afterwarRAB, yeah, just annoying. And I would have preferred a guy from the start to voice Freeza. I mean, Freeza's effeminate, no-one can deny that, but it sounRAB creepier when his voice is like the character: a femenine-sounding man.
 
Well after realizing that he's supposed to sound....relatively normal yet demented and not [strike]boderline phallic[/strike] played by a woman, I'd really like him to sound normal and demented in my dub if possible.
 
This is what I don't understand. When the early eps of Kai were airing, people were "singing their praises," and "thanking God," calling it, "a watchable version of DBZ."

The only early major complaints was how Goku's blood/dying scene in Radditz was edited so poorly, which I agree with.

Now all of a sudden we're 42 eps in Kai in Japan, and people are changing their minRAB? Is Kai a well put together show or not? It doesn't feel like a cheaply made fan-edit to me from the Japanese episodes I've watched already.

It really is sad. I thought Kai was supposed to "fix DBZ's problems," but now people are saying its the opposite, and that Kai is mediocre. What is going on here?
 
That makes it sound like the sky would fall if FUNimation didn't alter the name to include a 'Z'. Dragon Ball would sell nonetheless, it has had a fanbase in North America sense before FUNimation existed and Dragon Ball Kai has had a year to exist in the Internet Age to become widespread enough a name.



I'm not convinced this was a Toei decision. Toei has never dictated anything Dragon Ball related in North America.


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They're two entirely different experiences, don't think one makes the other useless.
 
Some of us have been fans for decades and easily did without Dragon Ball Kai. The manga was what we read for the quick and original story, and the anime was there for expansion--whether good or bad. Aside from new merchandise, all Dragon Ball Kai has personally brought me is 'new' weekly Dragon Ball to watch.

Dragon Ball Kai's biggest effect, I think, was that it was 'new weekly Dragon Ball'. The pace, music, and some of the performances are unfamiliar things thrown upon largely familiar footage. With Dragon Soul we know how great looking a completely new series can be and I think fans have come to realize it isn't quite what they want.

It goes back to Dragon Ball Kai being the same story we've all known for 20 years without anything new, yet completely different from what we've known it as, I think.


But alas, that's just me...
 
I'm going to pick up the DBZ Blu-Ray movies. They'll go great next to Kai on my shelf (especially since the US "Kai" retains the "Z" brand, nope no out of place movies for me!) and I hear they look really great. The only other anime I have on Blu-Ray is Afro Samurai. I don't buy many BluRay discs because I don't have a player yet. I have to rely on other people to watch them.
 
If you want the filler and you think you can afford the Dragon Boxes but not them and Kai, then you should just get the Dragon Boxes. You'll have everything you do want, and the beauty of owning the DVD's is that you can skip the parts that you don't.

I think Zach Logan explained things very well and very fairly. To help make the money-based decision easier, I'm going to crunch some math.

Basics first. It appears that each Dragon Box contains about 40 episodes or more, approximately (and a spiffy booklet that is nice to have, but I digress). DBZ has 291 episodes. The first two cover up through the 83rd. So, it reasonably follows that there will be seven boxes.

Kai is definitely at least 50 episodes, it could theoretically be about 100 in the long run if it eventually goes to the end. Let's assume it will. We now know that Funimation will release it with the "season x, part y" strategy that they usually use. This likely means that each release will contain 12 or 13 episodes, as this is what it has meant for nearly every recent FUNimation DVD release for a new anime. This means four "seasons" of 25 or 26 episodes each in total, broken up into halves.

Now, a Dragon Box is $60 MSRP. The first release of Kai will be $50 MSRP for each half season box. But MSRP is always discounted somewhere, so let's assume what I'll call a "real world" price: a 25% discount that is, as near as I can tell, a constant when it comes to pre-orders (Dragon Box 2 is 25% at Amazon right now). Finally, there's what I'll call the "ideal price," the 40% price if you wait and get a studio sale at Rightstuf or wait for Amazon to do a sale that offers a discount equal or even greater to that. But let's keep this simple at a flat 40%.

So, MSRP price: $60 for Dragon Box, $50 for a half season of Kai (source: Walmart.com).
Real world price: $45 for Dragon Box, $37.5 for a half season of Kai.
Ideal price: $36 for Dragon Box, $30 for a half season of Kai

Therefore...

Total cost for DBZ Dragon Box: $60 x 7 boxes = $420 MSRP; real world price is $315, ideal price is $252
Total cost for DBZ Kai: $50 ($55 for Blu-Ray) x 8 half season boxes = $400 MSRP ($440 for Blu-Ray); real world price is $300 ($330 for Blu-Ray), ideal price is $240 ($264 for Blu-Ray)

If we happen to break it down to cost per episode... (dividing # of episodes into the price, rounding up)

Dragon Box: $1.44 MSRP, $1.08 real world, $0.87 ideal
DBZ Kai (assuming 104 episodes): $3.85 MSRP; $2.88 real world, $2.31 ideal

This proportion in cost is entirely natural. DBZ is old, Kai is new (after a fashion). The episode counts are also very different, obviously.

Still, the conclusion is evident: if you buy Kai on DVD, do it because you want Kai. Don't do it because you want to save money. You won't really save anything worth mentioning for the complete story unless you wait for Kai to be released in a collection, which almost certainly won't happen until 2011.

So, there you go. I don't think I screwed anything up.

Now, on Blu-Ray, there is a better argument. Funi almost certainly will have the HD masters. Oh, and there are also other factors to consider, such as the redub at a minimum.
 
I'll be buying the Kai Blu-Ray sets.
Added, hopefully the packaging will be similar to the Japanese "Blue" Blu-Ray sets as they'd go nice with my FUNi DB Season sets.

But why? Well sure DBZ is the show I grew up watching, but I hate filler, I hate the horrid pacing, etc.
 
The sets would sell less without the Z, that is a guarantee. It would also be more confusing for regular people. FUNimation isn't in the business to appease childish fans, they're in the business to make money. It's a business move and it makes sense. VIZ did the same exact thing but worse, according to your standarRAB, because they altered the name of the original product. I don't see you crying over that.
 
I think Linda Young does a great job as Frieza, and I'm definitely used to her as the character, but I still think her voice is horribly unfitting.
 
Wow, awesome. This is a bit early considering that the DragonBoxes are being released, but this is a new chance for a good dub so I don't mind.

Speaking of which you do you all think should be recasted? Who do you should return? I'd like to know.
 
And also on the redubs they use some PG worRAB like Damn, hell, and crap. Which, did surprise me a liittle when I saw it on CN long time ago. So, the
All they did was dub episodes 1-67 with their in-house cast using most of the same erroneous dialogue from their first dub of those episodes.
Is not really true.
 
I wasn't remotely impressed with Kai the only way to get a true manga to animation show is if they reanimate it and not just the saiyan saga but I'm talking from Son Goku meeter Bulma and and running off to seek the Dragonballs. Dragonball Kai is pretty much the old Saban version of the dubb but with funny's orange brick cropping just mixed in with some digital paint sorry but that dont cut it for me.

Dragonbox is the best and as for the pacing and filler well its called a remote control if I dont want to watch that crappy Bulma episode where she fights a giant crab on Namek or the Garlick JR saga I'll just press the skip button.
 
I vonder if the Blu-ray release will be the 4:3 masters from Japan...



Nope. Linda Young is one of the many reasons I switched over to watching the original version of the show. Ry
 
Wait I see it or the comparison like a Book,

I see FMA as an outline And I see Brother hood as the whole book.
I guess KAI is Outline and the old dragon Ball Z is the whole book
correct..?
 
I would've waited until the Dragon Boxes were fully released, but ah well. Good to see it at least finalized to put all the speculation to rest.

Now to wonder how they're going to handle it's release.
 
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