For or Against Gay Marriage

So mothers do not provide nurturing and bonding? What is it that a father supposedly does that a mother cannot?

The reason I ask is because I believe that you may be harping on gender roles, which I don't think actually play a role in the raising of children (save for those families who totally isolate themselves from the rest of society).
 
OK, you outted me. I have no respect for indigent sluts that sleep with men that they wouldn't want to father their kiRAB. Does that make you happier? :rolleyes:

You read the statistics. I know because I posted them for you several times. Fear of starvation or eviction didn't make ANY of the lists, so stop making up imaginary reasons for abortion justification. Up until relatively recent, poor women were rewarded for having illegitimate kiRAB through increases in their Welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc., so there was a positive benefit for poor women to NOT get an abortion.


I guess you've never used hyperbole to emphasis a point before?


Your use of the Reader's Digest Word of the Month is getting tiring. Maybe we can find you a suitable replacement before you wear it out completely. :rolleyes:

Oh, and I'm nice to the ones that I don't know as well. At least until I find out what sort of character they have. :p
 
So that acceptance is already there.



So do gays, and Canadians. Allowing gays to marry doesn't trivialize marriage in any way. If you are suggesting it does, that isn't acceptance of gays.
 
To be honest I don't pay much attention to polls after all of them had Kerry beating Bush in the 2004 elections.........

I know that in Mass. you have a lot of Roman Catholics and the RCC is against gay marriage so we shall see what happens if it does come to a vote..........

A lot of states that have amendments now even forbid Civil Unions......I am not sure about Mass........ It seems like to me they did though...They should probably drop that requirement.............

The way things are looking now though is Mass. will be the only state that recognizes Gay Marriage.........

Stay tuned............
 
Trust me your wasting your time in trying to debate with "Little Man" ........I tried it several forums ago but gave up trying to reason with someone that can not reason and just insults and calls people names...........
 
Sexual identity, or sexual orientation. There is no proof that anyone can change sexual orientation. However, let's say for the sake of argument, you are correct, and one can do so. What if people like the way they are, and don't want to convert to be like you are? Simply because someone can change, doesn't mean that person should change. Does this mean they who choose to not be like you should have fewer rights, less support and less recognition than you have?



There you go putting it on me again, accusing me of bias, when I ask you to prove your own assertion. What do you know about "the main way" gay men engage in sex? Perhaps you are bias. Most, if not all, parts of the body, are used for many different purposes. Why should the anus be different? I can see it now, a man not getting a prostate examination, because he believes he wasn't "designed" to have anything directly put "up" there. He was better "designed" to have his cancer go undetected and untreated.
 
Hydra,
You are still missing the point. Majority rules, as it should be. If and when this nation becomes something other than what it is now, the USA will remain, unofficially, a "Christian Nation".

But, don't panic - it is changing...whether for the better or not is still up for grabs.
 
We all know that sodomites are minority and by The US constitutional laws do have basic rights,but special rights sodomites do not deserve.They are abomination before God,they spread deseases like AIRAB,they target our boys,and live in filth.Wake up America and fear God!
 
Give me a break. Do you think that a poll taken in a gay forum would be representative of the population at large? If so, I have a bridge to sell you. I hope you like the color gold. :rolleyes:
The only polls that matter take place in November and the verdict is 19 - 0 against gay marriage.
 
Wrong again. WS had only a few conservative in the first place, max 6 or 7, many are still there, a few left voluntarily. None were banned. WS bans virtually everyone regardless of ideology. you still can't get that through your empty head.



How so? Kerry merely mentioned her. He never said a bad word, but Allen Keyes, A REPUBLICAN, bashed her repetively. notice how you forget that. Apparnetly kerry's respectul workRAB is crusification yet Keyes refering to her as hedonistic isn't. But then agian, you're a idiot.



And Goldwater would never call you a conservative any day of the week.
 
Jean-Paul Sartre


Well my ironically named friend, I have two arguments:

1- Marriage is a Church/State issue where there is a clear separation

2- The state has an express interest in those New Deal programs, without them our poverty level would drastically rise and our economy would destabilize. Senior Citizen poverty would rise and standard of living would fall. I could not allow these things to occur so I will fight for all of them. As I argued the state does NOT have an express interest in marriage. In fact their role in "marriage" is counter-productive to equal rights.
 
I've come to believe that the whole gay marriage drive now is not about benefits and equality, but about the ability to say "I won".

It is not necessary to call gay couples "married" in order to give them benefits. Some governments already offer equal benefits to married couples and legally joined gay couples. There's no need to call them "married".

It would complicate all statistics regarding married couples. We'd have to redefine "widow", "widower", "husband", "wife". Adoptions would require the redefinition of "mother", "father".

It's just too much of a hassle just to satisfy the egos of a miniscule minority.

A marriage is between a man and a woman. It has been this way for thousanRAB of years. There is no sensible reason to change that.

Lesbians and gays can be joined in a legal ceremony, recognized by church and state, but it doesn't have to be called a "marriage". They don't have to be "married". Make up another name for it and have at it!
 
I wouldn't consider a woman controlling her own uterus to be frivolous selfishness. I can't see many men wanting to have their nuts controlled by someone else. Also we are speaking of potential kiRAB, not actual kiRAB.
 
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