For me, this is a new "Gout" food I shouldn't be eating anyway!

Portland wrote:

I have diabetes and gastroparesis too. No gout. I would think the problem
with gout would be the meat toppings which I don't eat.

Years ago I used to get a veggie pizza at the Presidio when we lived in CA.
I would go to the commissary to shop after eating the pizza and then have a
hypo! The dreaded pizza effect. Too much fat in the pizza I guess. I
would then make things worse by eating some M & Ms. This would bring my
blood sugar back up but then about an hour later the pizza would hit my
system and my blood sugar would be high!

These days I eat pizza maybe a couple of times a month. I have to use a
rice based crust because of daughter's wheat allergy. The rice crust is
very easy for my to digest. I either make it at home or get it from Garlic
Jim's. Extra cheese of all kinds. Works very well for me but I do have to
watch my portion size. I put some pine nuts on it if I make it.
 
no, charity at all, its the smarts of the universal health countries that
have got the US to pay for it, take any pill, and look at what it costs to
purchase it, in england its like ten percent over cost of production iirc,
france and germany are a bit higher, in the US same pill is fifty to three
hundred percent over costs. why? because the univ. h/c countries say,
either sell at a lower price or we won't buy it/allow it in... when there
are several groups of drugs for say, high bp, the univ. h/c can eliminate a
treatment, switch everyone to another drug and cut big pharma out, and it
has worked, like a charm. Its part of the reason the US wants to stop
purchases from cananada and mexico. if you look at the legislation to stop
these out of country purchases you would think it was the health doo
gooders, when in fact its funded/lobbied for by big pharma. there is one
factory in mexico for some pill that ships to cananada, US and sells in
mexico, this pill, i wish i could remember which one, is two thousand
percent higher in the us than in mexico and i can't remember the canadian
price...

Lee
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On 3/27/2011 3:14 PM, Paul M. Cook wrote:

Spouse has had gout for years :/ Thankfully, his is usually controlled
by his daily dose of allopurinol. Unfortunately, Spouse did try the
cherry juice trick a few times, but it did not work for him. Whenever
he gets a 'twinge' that indicates a gout attack is imminent, he nips it
in the but with some colchicine, which does work wonders. However, the
potential side effects of the colchicine are not very nice at all.
Luckily, he rarely gets attacks nowadays - knock on wood!

Sky

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sf wrote:

I did say "even if". I did not say "like any
purine-free diet you can pick up at Safeway".

Any living organism eaten as food will have
DNA, RNA, and some amino acids that contain
purine structures.
 
sf wrote:


I'm pretty sure you mean indomethacin, not endomycin.

Neither indomethacin nor colchicine is a long-term gout treatment;
these are symptomatic treatments that do not control uric acid levels and
will not stop long-term progression of the disease.

I strongly recommend getting the uric acid levels under control
with appropriate meds. Otherwise there is a possibility down the
road of persistent arthritis, tophi, and other serious symptoms.

Steve
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:14:51 -0700, sf wrote:


For me, the only sure trigger is Asparagus. If I eat it, the next
morning, the left big toe feels like I smacked it with a hammer!

I'm talking a single normal serving of it. It's a shame too. I love
the stuff! When the fresh is on sale, I have to talk myself out of
buying it. Grilled is my absolute favorite way to eat it. Slightly
charred over smoky coals.
 
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:52:43 -0500, "Storrmmee"
wrote:


Okay, I simplified it... but that's the way I understand it too.

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sf wrote:






You just asked this yesterday and I answered it.

The two most popular long-term treatments are allopurinol and
probenecid, and there are at least three other similar meds.
Dietary measures can also be considered part of treatment.

Steve
 
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:10:17 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Steve Pope) wrote:

I don't think of allopurinol as a treatment, it's a preventative.
Probenecid, I know nothing about - but you made it sound like another
preventative not a treatment. Dietary measures are for sure a
preventative, not a treatment.


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sf wrote:


Well, use whatever terminology you like. Gout is a chronic condition
and is treated with allopurinol or probenecid, and these treatments
if successful prevent more attacks.

Steve
 
sf wrote:

On the contrary, diet and avoiding working the affected
joints is the non-drug treatment. It takes several days
to be effective, more if you ignore the part about not
working the affected joints.
 
yes but if you look into the regulattion of what the pharmacies are allowed
to sell that is totally controlled by the govt, at least that is what the
bbc story said... thefre was a huge deal when states ehere in the us wanted
to go to a more british/european model, almost had pharma ceos crapping i am
sure, Lee
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"Mark Thorson" wrote in message
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You can have episodic gout and not as a chronic condition. What happens is
during an attack you can sustain a lot of damage to the joint, tendons and
tissue. That damage really never heals. So minor injuries or just aging
can make the joint flare up with pain and inflammation even though it may
not be a gout attack. If you have seen pictures of uric acid crystals they
are really large and very sharp looking. They look just like long daggers.

Paul
 
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"Julie Bove" wrote:



"Never" is a long time.

For many decades, we were taught that sugar = evil and sugar = diabetes.
In the last ten or fifteen years, we've found out that that isn't true.
The last few diabetes classes I've taken, the instructors were very
clear that we don't ever talk about sugar. All that matters is total
carbs. Although I have some doubts about glycemic index, and don't
understand glycemic load very well, it's clear that when you compare
sugar, boiled potatoes and white bread, it's the latter two that spike
the blood glucose, not the sugar.

So, for those (not you and me, at least not right now) who need this,
some research would be desirable. Could fresh cherries, which have
fiber, be substituted? Exactly what type of cherry juice (I've seen a
couple of TJ cherry juices on the internet)? What's the carb count?
What's your carb allowance in your diet? How can this juice be fit into
that?


I'm not surprised.

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Landon wrote:


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This is extremely easy for you to fix. The above poster has no clue.
He makes no original posts. He just takes a fragment of somebody else's
post and reposts it. Just killfile him. Do not killfile the entire
"from" header, as that number garbage changes with every post. For
instance, you could just killfile something like:

afaqan

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