Food coloring?

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:33:42 -0600, gloria.p wrote:


duh??
WTF?

LogIn please?


At least give us a short quote from the article. Blind leads that cost
money are useless.


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On 4/3/2011 6:26 PM, heyjoe wrote:


Sorry. I have been subscribing (free) to NYT for a couple of years and
didn't realize it would be a paid log-in.

The article didn't make any statement about the health or behavior risks
associated with artificial color, just the perception that if you change
the color people are used to, they will be convinced there is a flavor
change, too.

It says that w/o artificial food coloring most foods would be an
unappetizing pale brown or tan. They showed popsicles that were
a very pale gray. Pickles would be gray w/o added color. Flavored Jello
would be tan.

It said that people were given uncolored Cheetos that were identical to
the commercial orange ones in flavor but looked like styrofoam. Testers
said almost unanimously they were tasteless or bland.

Sorry again about the lack of information. I didn't realize.

gloria p
 
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:26:34 -0500, heyjoe
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I think I must have registered a couple of years ago, because I didn't
have to log in. According to their TV ads, a guest gets 20
views/articles per month free. If you subscribe, it's unlimited.

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:45:00 -0600, "gloria.p"
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People don't have to subscribe, they just need to register.

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 18:45:00 -0600, gloria.p wrote:


I've made pickles and they were green without adding any added
colorants. Just checked three jars of pickles and none of them list
artificial (or natural) color.

So I have no idea what they're referring to.

-sw
 
"gloria.p" wrote in message
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My food wouldn't look much different. Yes, I know they add annatto to
cheese to make it yellow. I'm fine with white cheese. I don't need it to
be yellow.

Daughter eats some kind of extruded puffed corn snacks that are organic and
white. Some are even cheese flavored. Some do not even contain real cheese
but nutritional yeast. I served them at her birthday party and everyone
said they tasted just like Cheetos. I wouldn't know. I never like the
things.

When daughter was little I bought her some Popsicles that were called (I
believe) Shark. They looked just like the regular ones but had no color
added. They were kind of white/clear. I liked them because they didn't
stain. They were the only ones she was allowed after she made a huge mess
outside on our deck with a rainbow colored one. I put her out there after
she had the accident with the Trix yogurt and stained the carpet. What I
didn't realize at the time was that our deck had a solid floor to it plus my
garden hose didn't reach up there so I could not (as I thought I could do)
just rinse it and her off after she was done eating. I don't think they make
those any more.

Now she rarely eats Popsicles. She and my husband do eat the frozen pops
made with real fruit. I don't think they have any added color.

I don't think there is much that I eat that contains coloring. Yes, today I
did buy some Hershey's Easter egg candies that are sort of like M & M's but
bigger. I don't need them and can certainly live without them.

Mostly I eat whole raw vegetables, some cooked vegetables, rice, pasta,
white or potato bread, cheese and a little plain meat. Sometimes I eat
pasta that is colored with vegetables. I do eat pickles on occasion. If
there is any added color to them, it isn't disclosed.
 
"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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I was wondering that myself. Most of the canned pickles that you get are
not a bright green. I used to get half sours in NY and they were more
green. No color in there that I know of. And they don't look any different
than the pickles my grandma used to make.
 
On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:32:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:


Turmeric makes the insides yellow, I guess is what they're referring
to. But as you mentioned, my half sours (no vinegar) are cream
colored and do not contain any colarants.

Maybe it's the vinegar pickles that have the turmeric to make their
insides yellow (otherwise sickly grey?). IIRC, Vlassic and similar
ilk are yellow inside.

-sw
 
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sf wrote:


I've never figured it out. This time I got right in with nothing.
Sometimes it wants a login, in which case I just skip it. I understand
that there is a charge for more than 20 somethings per month also.

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"Julie Bove" wrote:


Grass-fed cows produce milk that makes butter and cheese that is
naturally yellow.

Miche

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On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:44:54 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:


Set up several accounts and don't let it set persistent cookies. Then
you get 20 links for each account per month.

-sw
 
"gloria.p" wrote in message
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I suppose it depends on how much junk food you eat. I've never eaten a
"gummy worm". I cringe just looking at them. My father liked to fish and
they remind me too much of the faux worms he had in his tackle box. LOL
Cheetoes are an occasional indulgence but I think it would be a nice change
if my fingers didn't turn orange ;)

Jill
 
"gloria.p" wrote:

I haven't read the article, but based on the comments of others who
fought through the NYT junk, it sounds like a "quality" piece with a
clueless writer and someone going nuts with Photoshop.

Pickles as others have noted are *not* naturally gray, nor do they have
any artificial colors added to them commercially. The "bread and butter"
style pickles do contain turmeric which does impart a yellow color,
however that is a flavor ingredient and also entirely natural.

Cheese often contains annato to get a yellow color, but once again, that
is entirely natural. Some food items are colored with "carmine" red
which is also a natural coloring. Popsicles that are mostly water
certainly get some artificial coloring, but decent ones made from actual
fruit juice don't.

The food I cook in my kitchen certainly has appetizing colors without
adding any artificial coloring, indeed the only reason I have any food
coloring in my kitchen was from when I needed to color some stabilized
whipped cream for decorating.
 
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It wasn't, here (UK). Here's the article copy /pasted

"WASHINGTON ? Without the artificial coloring FD&C Yellow No. 6, Cheetos
Crunchy Cheese Flavored Snacks would look like the shriveled larvae of a
large insect. Not surprisingly, in taste tests, people derived little
pleasure from eating them.
William Duke

Related

Artificial Dye Safe to Eat, Panel Says (April 1, 2011)
F.D.A. Panel to Consider Warnings for Artificial Food Colorings (March
30, 2011)

William Duke

Their fingers did not turn orange. And their brains did not register much
cheese flavor, even though the Cheetos tasted just as they did with food
coloring.

?People ranked the taste as bland and said that they weren?t much fun to
eat,? said Brian Wansink, a professor at Cornell University and director
of the university?s Food and Brand Lab.

Naked Cheetos would not seem to have much commercial future. Nor might
some brands of pickles. The pickling process turns them an unappetizing
gray. Dye is responsible for their robust green. Gummi worms without
artificial coloring would look, like, well, muddily translucent worms.
Jell-O would emerge out of the refrigerator a watery tan.

No doubt the world would be a considerably duller place without artificial
food coloring. But might it also be a safer place? The Center for Science
in the Public Interest, an advocacy group, asked the government last week
to ban artificial coloring because the dyes that are used in some foods
might worsen hyperactivity in some children.

?These dyes have no purpose whatsoever other than to sell junk food,?
Marion Nestle, a professor of nutrition, food studies and public health at
New York University.

A government advisory panel concluded that there was no proof that dyes
caused problems in most children, and that whatever problems they might
cause in some children did not warrant a ban or a warning label beyond
what is already required ? a disclosure on the product label that
artificial colors are present.

?Color is such a crucial part of the eating experience that banning dyes
would take much of the pleasure out of life,? said Kantha Shelke, a food
chemist and spokeswoman for the Institute of Food Technologists. ?Would we
really want to ban everything when only a small percentage of us are
sensitive?? Indeed, color often defines flavor in taste tests. When
tasteless yellow coloring is added to vanilla pudding, consumers say it
tastes like banana or lemon pudding. And when mango or lemon flavoring is
added to white pudding, most consumers say that it tastes like vanilla
pudding. Color creates a psychological expectation for a certain flavor
that is often impossible to dislodge, Dr. Shelke said.

?Color can actually override the other parts of the eating experience,?
she said in an interview.

Even so, some food companies have expanded their processed-product
offerings to include foods without artificial colorings. You can now buy
Kool-Aid Invisible, for instance, and Kraft Macaroni and Cheese Organic
White Cheddar. Some grocery chains, including Whole Foods Market and
Trader Joe?s, refuse to sell foods with artificial coloring.

As yet, natural colorings have not proven to be a good alternative. They
are generally not as bright, cheap or stable as artificial colorings,
which can remain vibrant for years. Natural colorings often fade within
days.

Todd Miller, the executive pastry chef for Hello Cupcake in Washington,
said he was dedicated to simple, natural ingredients. His cakes are made
with flour and butter, and his red icing gets its color from strawberry
pur?e.

But the sprinkles that top many of his creations have colorings derived
from good old petroleum, the source of artificial colorings. And he has no
intention of changing that because the natural stuff just isn?t as
colorful.

?I could live without sprinkles, but why would I want to?? he asked.
?They?re cupcakes. They?re supposed to be fun.?
 
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