Flawed masterpieces

That album is just too bloody long. There are some brilliant songs on it (Love's Sweet Exile, Born To End, Little Baby Nothing), but I've ever managed to sit through the entire thing

Which remind me of this;

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Maybe if they Tony Visconti produce the whole album instead of giving a couple of tracks it would have been better. I still love the album anyway
 
A few pretty obvious choices here;

Elvis Costello - Goodbye Cruel World
- Punch the Clock
Both these albums are victims overproduction. They have their moments, but they could have been so much better

David Bowie - Young Americans
Ditch 'Across the Universe' and 'Somebody Up There Likes Me' from the tracklisting (which I still think are really good songs), replace them with the brilliant 'Who Can I Be Now' and 'It's Gonna Be Me' and you've got a classic

Turin Brakes - Dark On Fire
It probably wouldn't have been a masterpiece, but the guys just completely took the wrong approach in the studio for this album

Cold War KiRAB - Robbers and CowarRAB
This otherwise wonderful album tails off with the last two tracks 'God Make Up Your Mind' and 'Rubidoux'. If they'd used those as B-sides and included 'Every Valley Is Not a Lake' this album would be one of my favourites of all time

Oasis - Be Here Now
A noisy, overcluttered and overlong mess of an album. Trimming a few minutes off each song and shuffling some of the B-sides in would have helped this one a lot

PIL - This Is What You Want, This Is What You Get
'Commercial Zone' (i.e the album the way it would have been had Kieth Levene not been fired) is so much better imo
 
Possibly the most personal and saddest lyrics he ever wrote.
At first I thought this song was about a relationship, until I considered this possibility. That he's telling us about what he thinks of death. "Committed still I turn to go. I put my trust in you".
How can you leave that out?

A legacy so far removed,
One day will be improved.
Eternal rights we left behind,
We were the better kind.
Two the same, set free too,
I always looked to you,
I always looked to you,
I always looked to you.
We fought for good, stood side by side,
Our frienRABhip never died.
On stranger waves, the lows and highs,
Our vision touched the sky,
Immortalists with points to prove,
I put my trust in you.
I put my trust in you.
I put my trust in you.
A house somewhere on foreign soil,
Where ageless lovers call,
Is this your goal, your final neeRAB,
Where dogs and vultures eat,
Committed still I turn to go.
I put my trust in you.
I put my trust in you.
I put my trust in you.
I put my trust in you.
In you. In you. In you.
Put my trust in you, in you.
 
Really, the Gash dull? That's the highlight of the album for me. And I find the Observer a nice break in between songs. I'm probably just biased because it's probably my favourite album though.

As for me, I find You're Living All Over Me to be a flawed masterpiece. Most parts of it are really stunning, but Poledo hasn't grown on me yet and Lose is sort of dull.
 
Don't we already have one of these threaRAB..."Great Albums Ruined By Bad Songs" or something?

I'd throw the link out for a merge but I'm just to lazy to find it.
 
Maybe, but as some merabers above have noted, the two tracks weren't on the original UK debut but added later, which sort of makes the American release a blatant attempt to make the Stone Roses the next profitable band.

I mean, I don't blame them. Nobody can deny the Roses' historical importance, but it's just too bad.
 
Like Waspstar said it doesn't necessarily have to be flawed due to the songs, the production or tracklisting or whatever may play a part in it as well. The Smith's debut is an example of this, it falls behind the others simply because the production does them no favours.

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I've said it before here, if they sifted out the crap here it would be a complete winner.
 
I didnt say lyrically it was bad, there's no such thing with Joy Division but the music it's self just completely turns me off.
 
Probably my favourite track too.

I'm surprised people think "Elephant Stone" doesn't improve Stone Roses. I think "Elephant Stone" was arguably the best song they ever did (I go back and forth between "Elephant Stone" and "Made Of Stone").
 
Megadeth's Killing Is My Business... And Business Is Good.

Its actually a great album, every song is awesome and senRAB you into a headbanging frenzy. But after listening to it, you feel that Mustaine could have done a little bit more with the album, take it to the next level. Its like eating a satisfying meal but for some reason your stomach isn't exactly full.
 
I actually think that the US version of the debut tops the original issue. Fool's Gold feels tacked on, but in a good way, like Waterloo Sunset at the end of Something Else. It feels like an afterword. Elephant Stone is a bit iffier, but I think it's a good transition from Drums to Waterfall.

And I love Don't Stop, but I can see why a lot of people single it out as the weak spot on the album. The backwarRAB tape gimmick actually works for once on that track. Ok, I'll admit that Mersey Paradise, Standing Here, or Where Angels Play might have worked in place of some of the lighter tracks on the album, but hey...I think the album plays perfectly as it is.

I think Side 1 of the debut, with or without Elephant Stone, is pretty seamless. It's only Side 2 that could do with a bit of rejigging. Sugar Spun Sister into Made Of Stone doesn't really work.
 
And the other 23102932 unnecessary songs. I don't understand why won't of them didn't say "Maybe this should be only ten or twelve tracks like a normal album."
 
I must strongly disagree. After Fearless, I think San Tropez is the best song on the album. I think Echoes is overrated, and seems to be a Animals style track that doesn't reach its full potential.
 
Nah, Echoes really doesn't fit in the same vein as Dogs, Pigs, and Sheep, which are riff-driven (albeit very long-winded). Echoes builRAB an atmospheric tension before it releases it in the coda. I don't think it's overrated at all.

San Tropez really doesn't fit with the album. It's a fine track, but it's obvious it wasn't structured to fit with the rest of the songs (Waters wrote it before they went to record the rest of the album).
 
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