asianondrums
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I am fed up with people who Firewall their music files to NOT be SHARED!!!! It totally sucks. I think that they should be kicked off of the Gnotella network all together because they TAKE and don't GIVE! Jerks.
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FIREWALLS and USERS#@!$#@!$#@!!!!
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From what I understand, ENRON employees were trading MP3 files with gnutella at the time they were asked to shred documents and this is why most documents wern't shred but rather were shared.
Firewalls suck if you want to share files. Reports have it that most push requests take 30 minutes average to come back. What good is that? I think you should do everything you can to educate users on how to set things up to open port 6346.
Firewalls suck if you want to share files. Reports have it that most push requests take 30 minutes average to come back. What good is that? I think you should do everything you can to educate users on how to set things up to open port 6346.
Renesmee Cullen♥
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Alexander.
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6239 From: freepeers info@f...
Date: Tue Mar 12, 2002 0:07am
Subject: Re: Redundant Push Routes
--- In the_gdf@y..., "Mike Green" wrote:
>
> > It is also interesting to note that the oldest routed push
message
> > was almost 10 hours. This means that 10 hours passed between the
> > receipt of the query hits message and its associated push.
>
> What's the average time, if you know...?
I have that information now. BearShare 2.5.0 Beta 11 includes an
average round trip time between query hits and associated pushes.
I have an uptime of 1h 51m. There were 76 pushes in and 188 pushes
out.
Of the incoming pushes, the oldest round trip time was 38 minutes.
This means that 38 minutes passed between the query hit and an
associated push.
The average round trip time was 21 minutes.
The average is calculated by a running total of push messages and
round trip time seconds (in other words, its accurate).
I would expect that over time, the value oldest would become a lot
more than twice the average.
6239 From: freepeers info@f...
Date: Tue Mar 12, 2002 0:07am
Subject: Re: Redundant Push Routes
--- In the_gdf@y..., "Mike Green" wrote:
>
> > It is also interesting to note that the oldest routed push
message
> > was almost 10 hours. This means that 10 hours passed between the
> > receipt of the query hits message and its associated push.
>
> What's the average time, if you know...?
I have that information now. BearShare 2.5.0 Beta 11 includes an
average round trip time between query hits and associated pushes.
I have an uptime of 1h 51m. There were 76 pushes in and 188 pushes
out.
Of the incoming pushes, the oldest round trip time was 38 minutes.
This means that 38 minutes passed between the query hit and an
associated push.
The average round trip time was 21 minutes.
The average is calculated by a running total of push messages and
round trip time seconds (in other words, its accurate).
I would expect that over time, the value oldest would become a lot
more than twice the average.
softballbabe0034
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If FIREWALLS were so cool, why am I always waiting for you GUYS to be pushed ....FOR HOURS!!!??? and...never getting downloads from you?...I'd say "You 'ARE' being jerks! The green bottons seam to ALWAYS give me music files....MY WHOLE POINT! The RED ONES....HUMPH! Keep Waiting!
Push, Keep Waiting , Push, Keep Waiting, Push,,,,,,,etc.,,,
Push, Keep Waiting , Push, Keep Waiting, Push,,,,,,,etc.,,,
Libbles1233
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You are right, it is more difficult to get a file from a firewalled client. I see no danger in opening port 6346 to incoming connections if you have a good well tested client or are running Linux. Windows users are paranoid because their stupid Outlook program allows you to run programs by just sending it to someone. How stupid is that? They have no clue so they think viruses are coming from everywhere, even a open port!
SHUT IT ALL DOWN!! I have no clue where it is coming from so shut it all off!!
As a test I put up 2000 jpg files (very nasty girly pictures everyone wants) and I got about 50 DL per hour on a modem connection.
When I firewalled it I only got about 5 or so per hour. I let this run for some time to make sure I wasn't crazy. I could get all the files I wanted from others though!
The problem is that your push packet has to be routed to the host you are trying to contact, and he could have disconnected from the network node he was on when he sent back the query hit to you (file names). Also with MorphedGnucleus 100,000 new users on the network it's hard to reach the "other side". Plus on top of that most nodes are way busy because these morph people were trained to leach every file they can and not share back. Why should they? There were set up central servers with everything on them, paid for by advertising dollars and a CEO with a new car.
You don't know if your push request made it or just got lost. Plus, you may have dropped the node connection that routed you the packet. So it's hit or miss at best.
So yes, firewalls are for whimps who run windows and have no clue how to set their port 6346 open. Since billy gates won't spend the time to fix his crap he has put out since the 80's, we all have to suffer.
To Billy Gates: you have enough money now, show us you are a real programmer and fix this crap you idiot!
Here's this Linus guy that isn't a billonaire and his OS isn't a big security hole!
Why do people buy sh t from a shi y company when they could have a great OS for free? Stupid, really stupid.
SHUT IT ALL DOWN!! I have no clue where it is coming from so shut it all off!!
As a test I put up 2000 jpg files (very nasty girly pictures everyone wants) and I got about 50 DL per hour on a modem connection.
When I firewalled it I only got about 5 or so per hour. I let this run for some time to make sure I wasn't crazy. I could get all the files I wanted from others though!
The problem is that your push packet has to be routed to the host you are trying to contact, and he could have disconnected from the network node he was on when he sent back the query hit to you (file names). Also with MorphedGnucleus 100,000 new users on the network it's hard to reach the "other side". Plus on top of that most nodes are way busy because these morph people were trained to leach every file they can and not share back. Why should they? There were set up central servers with everything on them, paid for by advertising dollars and a CEO with a new car.
You don't know if your push request made it or just got lost. Plus, you may have dropped the node connection that routed you the packet. So it's hit or miss at best.
So yes, firewalls are for whimps who run windows and have no clue how to set their port 6346 open. Since billy gates won't spend the time to fix his crap he has put out since the 80's, we all have to suffer.
To Billy Gates: you have enough money now, show us you are a real programmer and fix this crap you idiot!
Here's this Linus guy that isn't a billonaire and his OS isn't a big security hole!
Why do people buy sh t from a shi y company when they could have a great OS for free? Stupid, really stupid.
In my opinion there is just one real problem:
No SOCKS proxy support within the Gnutella clients !
With a SOCKS proxy even a client can open a listening connection (on the proxy itself) and should be reachable, for HTTP proxies the PUSH has to be used, but that does not work between two firewalled clients.
So get the SOCKS proxy support going ! ! !
regards bluepuma
No SOCKS proxy support within the Gnutella clients !
With a SOCKS proxy even a client can open a listening connection (on the proxy itself) and should be reachable, for HTTP proxies the PUSH has to be used, but that does not work between two firewalled clients.
So get the SOCKS proxy support going ! ! !
regards bluepuma
It seems to be "in" these days to bag on microsoft. Too bad you don't actually know what is wrong with microsoft products so you resort to petty trolling.
As far as firewalls are concerned, yeah some people are paranoid, others just want to control what goes in and out of their computer. A lot of people are also on LANs, sharing a single internet connection between multiple computers.
I run a soft firewall and sit behind a router, and I was able to set things up to give me a "direct" connection to gnutella. Unfortunately not everyone is capable of doing this. Either they do not know how or they do not have access to do network administration.
The problem isn't with people using firewalls. The problem is the lack of proxy support in gnutella clients (among other things.) This is something that is being worked on around the development community.
So in the mean time be patient and quit bitching about people that have decided to share files. You're getting this all for free anyway.
As far as firewalls are concerned, yeah some people are paranoid, others just want to control what goes in and out of their computer. A lot of people are also on LANs, sharing a single internet connection between multiple computers.
I run a soft firewall and sit behind a router, and I was able to set things up to give me a "direct" connection to gnutella. Unfortunately not everyone is capable of doing this. Either they do not know how or they do not have access to do network administration.
The problem isn't with people using firewalls. The problem is the lack of proxy support in gnutella clients (among other things.) This is something that is being worked on around the development community.
So in the mean time be patient and quit bitching about people that have decided to share files. You're getting this all for free anyway.
lilrockchic2001
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I feel so much better now that you explained things so eliquently!....NOT! Stop bitching must mean to stop being REAL!...Let's just let ENRON and others like them Steal from California's budget surplus of 7 plus billion dollars, and let's let gas prices at the pump go sky rocketing through the roof and just think it is all just capitalism at its' best, and yes! Let's just turn our head the other way when we see a free gift horse in the mouth!....I'll just be patient and patient and patient and....
lovethatass99
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And Phex!
Morgwen
Morgwen
Baby Wong ™
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And LimeWire!
We wouldn't forget that one, would we?
We wouldn't forget that one, would we?
le general
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Limewire does not support socks 4 or socks 5 proxies AFAIK!
Read the whole thread!!!
Morgwen
Read the whole thread!!!
Morgwen