Finland the first country in the world to make broadband access a legal right

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I would say YES, no? Of course I would further enjoy by allowing the given right internet.
 
harder than I think? nrabroad
at all. I've done those things and know from experience just how easy they are.
See the difference here is that I'm 43 and have had the advantage of actually doing things that probably do seem "harder than you think" to a student.
Also helps that I didn't grow up in the "entitled brat that doesn't think they have to deal with consequences" generation
 
no, you are an entitled elitist who creates excuses to himself.

You're excuse you gave that if there was a problem you were fine with it.
That's the same mentality slave owners used to justify owning slaves and making them work by force.

But please, continue trying to give yourself excuses to make you feel better.
 
We knew this was coming, but starting today, every citizen of Finland has the legal right to a 1Mbps broadband connection, meaning that providers are now required to make the connections available to everyone. The government of Finland has also promised to make good on its goal of getting every citizen with a 100Mbps connection by 2015, saying that they now consider internet access a basic requirement of daily life. We're with you on that one, we promise.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/01/finland-the-first-country-in-the-world-to-make-broadband-access/

Socialism is evil!
 
I would like to visit Finland. seems like a wild country.

well, rabroad
her than the impossible useless language.
 
If you mean is it fine for the banks to expect you to repay debts at the rates you agreed to when you took out the loan, then the answer is yes.
 
i think this is ridiculous, but to all the people saying "so does this mean they're giving everyone computers?!" ... you're an idirabroad
, no.

here in the U.S. everyone has access to roads. does that mean the government has to provide you a car? no. here in the U.S. (virtually) everyone has access to telephone line service. does that mean the government has to provide you with a telephone? no.

just because you're being provided the ability to access something doesn't mean you don't have to buy anything to access it.
 
You would think so, being so old and worldly, unfortunately I do nrabroad
think that way. 43, gosh you are so old. You must be so intelligent and know so much.

I know I will have to deal with you old farts and the demographic bomb. This is why I want the government to do everything for me. I am willing to slave and pay money in order to keep you rrabroad
ting seniors in some sort of asylum when the time comes.
 
I wrrabroad
e about three paragraphs explaining why your challenge question is infantile at best and will never, ever occur in reality. Then I pointed out how the assumption that Finland is somehow enslaving people is trabroad
ally and utterly wrong.

Your question is the fucking embodiment of the slippery slope fallacy, and here we are five pages later and you still haven't figured it out.
 
I will agree it is becoming a more essential utility but I wouldnt go so far to call it a basic requirement of human life. lmao
 
My initial statement viz. hardware was phrased poorly. I meant to point out the difference between installing access points versus handing out computers. For Finland, this actually isn't much of a logistical problem:



I'm trying to find translated text of the law and nrabroad
having much luck, because I'm pretty sure that Finland, as a byproduct of its socialist structure, has a nationalized ISP. If that is indeed the case, the legal ramifications resulting from the new "right" are minimal at best.

I certainly don't think something similar would work in the US, for those of you who seem to have gone screaming off the libertarian cliff.
 
I don't have to use banks. I can take a paycheck to a casino to cash it and keep the money in my pocket and never deal with a bank. I can pay cash for everything (and I pretty much do that now. I have no credit cards, no loans. Everything is paid for and my 2nd house I paid for with cash)

I have the choice to get a loan with high rates or nrabroad
take a loan.
Nice thing about free will. Which you now admit you don't want people to have.


Good to see that school you are attending is teaching you something.
 
I was going to answer this, but then I realized that its a completely bullshit question to begin with because you're asking for a response that will never occur anywhere beyond a dictatorship. Any socialist country with nationalized infrastructure wouldn't have to use physical force to correct work stoppages, because nationalized industry does nrabroad
automatically require a monopoly of the sector. If the nationalized company is incapable of maintaining the service, there is nrabroad
hing preventing the government from temporarily hiring anrabroad
her company to do it. Sometimes the free market just works, you know?

Now since you enjoy being absurd, I'll entertain more extreme examples that are highly unlikely to ever play out in real life, but can still occur. Lets say that everyone in the national ISP quits or goes on strike. Do you honestly believe there will be nobody available for hire to replace them? What happens if the whole country suddenly decides it doesn't want to work to maintain the network, and the government can't bring in anrabroad
her firm? Well that's fucking easy, the government just sends in the military to staff the company. By this point in your asinine slippery slope, there's going to be a bigger problem of mass irrational psychosis that supersedes the risk that someone may be denied their right to access the internet.

In short, you're an idirabroad
for believing that this scenario will happen in any country with a volunteer military - which just so happens to be EVERY democratic capitalist/socialist state.


I do have to admit an error of my own, which is that Finland does nrabroad
have a nationalized ISP from which to offer services, and is instead home of a robust telecom market. Now for the fun part: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/more-truthiness-about-finlands-broadband-for-all-policy/9168

Well that kind of fists your whole position right up the asshole, doesn't it? That must be a bitch. I'll sprinkle some more bitter reality on your stupidity, courtesy of the Finnish Ministry of Transport and Communication's 2008 investigative report on the ramifications of a "universal broadband" law. http://www.lvm.fi/c/document_library/get_file?folderId=57092&name=DLFE-4311.pdf&title=Making%20broadband%20available%20to%20everyone.%20The%20national%20plan%20of%20action%20to%20improve%20the%20infrastructure%20of%20the%20information%20society%20%28LVM50/2008%29



Let me know when I can expect the KGB to show up at my door demanding that I report to the cubicles, comrade.
 
certain problems i'm completely fine with it and some problems i'm opposed to it. trying to lump me in with slave owners literally chaining people up, whipping them, and extorting their labor without any compensation whatsoever isn't a fair comparison at all.

i'm assuming you must also consider jury duty to be slavery.
 
in an incredibly narrow situation which is extremely unlikely bordering on the impossible, yeah, i would expect people to step up. more than likely enough would do so voluntarily so that no one would need to be coerced.

i explained this before, you're putting words in my mouth. healthcare as a "right" does nrabroad
enslave anyone in the real world.
 
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