Financial Impact to Bell With The Loss Of US Customers

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It will be interesting to see how many US customers Bell actually had when people start to cancel there account. I estimated a guess of about 8000 in the US which is equal to $5.3 milion per year of revenue.

8000 was just a guess at the number of US customers, it can be any number. I used an average monthly bill of say $56.00 per month. 8000 x 56= $448,000.00 per month x 12 months = $5,376,000.00 per year

8000 customers would be equal to about 3/4 of 1 percent of the total customer base of Bell.

I could be way off on the 8000....even if it was say 4000 that still equal $2.6 million per year of revenue lost to Star Choice

The Bell leaders have to be worst than the Leafs management!!!!

Now to make up for the loss of revenue, current Canadian Bell customers will no doubt be hit with a price increase to help cover the cost of N4 at some point, so I would be prepared and start saving your pennies.

I would say we here in the US did our part to help keep the cost down but this is out of our control...

From another members comments:


"Have you ever considered that " these" people in the states that pay for BEV service help subsidise the price for all Canadians? With the loss of US
account holders that are legally paying for BEV (in the US it is not illegal to
buy DBS service from any provider), the cost will need to be shifted to the
rest. That means Canadian subscribers."
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Dave.
 
If you really care about keeping costs down for the rest of us folks, you can still subscribe, just get a friend in Canada to do it, and get a slingbox. This will allow you to keep Bell as your tv provider, and more importantly, keep costs down.
 
As I said in the other thread.
I would guess 90% of the Belltv subs in the US don't even sub for the HD channels. They sub for the Canadian news and locals which are on 91 sat. Most won't even know or care that 82 is no longer reachable.
I would think that most of the HD viewers of Bell in the US aren't paying for it anyway if you know what I mean. ;) So no real loss in Bells wallet.
 
Thankfully, as of right now I still am getting the signal from 82.

I think the 8,000 is too low. There is nearly one million legal Canadians in the US(not sure if that is correct, wikipedia). There is also probably a substantial amount of illegal Canadians living here. So even if a small number of these people have Bell it still would be a substantial number.

You then have French speaking people that would turn to Bell for french programming. You have British/Irish people that want the British shows like Coronation Street and Eastenders and the English premier league.

I would be mad if I found out that I could not get 82 (especially since I only set it up a few days ago) But if Bell loses American customers they will probably pick up Canadian customers since they will be providing better service in Canada.

It would be interesting to know why Bell changed the footprint. Is it because it was the only way to provide better service to more parts of Canada? Or is it for some other reason.

You could downgrade your service on Bell so you get the Canadian channels you want. I saw the other day that Dish Network have some package now that is only HD. The prices are from $25-$40 depending on how many channels you want. You then could either use an antenna to pick up HD locals (NBC,CBS,ABC) or else pay $5 to dish network for them. That is what I was planning on doing when I thought I was going to wake up and not get a signal from 82.
 
I persoanlly only suscribed for ther HD. I didn't spend a lot of money for HD TV and watch a SD programs on it. So personally for me it doesn't work out.
But for other it may be no different if they only wanted 91. I wouldn't be surprised to see 91 follow suit at some point in time, maybe not!

And AFF, I pay each month for my HD, so yes at least my payment is lost. You could say the same thing about the Canadian viewers, how many of them are using a hacked receiver.
 
well then i had know idea bell or star choice were allowed in the states ,thought they were black market like dish network is up here.
 
Bell TV do not allow you to Sub south of the Border, why on earth a heavily Moderated Forum like this allows the discutions is just beyond me, it should be handled just the same as a thread on "How do I find a file for my FTA"......
 
The reasoning was discussed in the following thread, please take the time to read it, especially posts 3, 14, 22, 25. I believe you were involved in that discussion under a different username.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=67879

If you wish to discuss the moderating of this forum, please do so in the member feedback forum, otherwise you know what happens.
 
I wonder if the increased signal strength of 82 transponders will result in an increase of subscribers due to less rain fade? I just checked my signal levels, and didn't have a single transponder below 86%, with an average in the 90's!
 
I would doubt it. Bell TV do not mention rain fade when you place your order. It is only the informed who read Forums like this, that are even aware of the problem at all.
 
bluereef I agree with you that there will be some fallout. Once you go HD it is pretty hard to think about going without. I am in Central Fl as well and will need to think about what we do from here - whether we scale down the subscription to only the SD channels to at least get some Cdn content and supplement with something else or leave all together and try Starchoice or a US service.
 
I was talking with Star Choice and they told me that they have approx 1 million customers, so I would say Bell is at least at 2 million or above so my 8000 clients in the CONUS may be to low.

It's still a great financial loss to Bell if even 4000 stop there service.
 
Bell takes pride in cutting off illegal receivers.
Now if only they could do something with the other 2mil that watch BTV and pay nothing...
 
And how many 1000's will be gained, due to the increased signal strength/ footprint shift?
I understand your frustration in losing your choice of tv, but what can you do?
I'll pick you up at the airport if you want to move back...:D
 
And how many 1000's will be gained, due to the increased signal strength/ footprint shift? Bell isn't about losing money, so I highly doubt this change will cause a them a loss.
I understand your frustration in losing your choice of tv, but what can you do?
I'll pick you up at the airport if you want to move back...:D
 
Hate, there is nothing that you can do but move forward. I would love to move back if I could..and yes maybe more than 1000 new customers will join. Its called free enterprise!!
 
And getting Bell TV in the States was a risk that everyone took.

Now that the footprint has changed it appears that the gamble has failed.

I agree with i hate tv, they will not notice the loss of 3 or 4000 customers, as they will not all go at the same time and some will even stay, just getting SD channels. I would also wager that there will even be 'new' customers signing up south of the border that will again offset the losses.
 
The three snowbirds I know didn't even notice the switch over. All three only have a belltv sub so they can keep in touch with the canadian news etc. on 91 sat. I would think most of the snowbirds are the same. I'm talking the 60+yrs old retired folk that could care less about HD.
 
Exactly my point AFF. With thousands of customers leaving each month, I doubt anyone would notice.
 
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