The Ocelot
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demonoid is not private (you only have to sign up for some files), and with their massive downtime, I wouldn't put them at the top anyway for longevity...
FatalTracker
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71cooldude
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Filelist org is one of the oldest
Carolynn L
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Thanks, Fishy2.
I'm by no means an expert, just an "Habitue".
I always advise people considering file sharing to consider Bit Torrent for the safety involved in the private trackers. Yes, there are mega sites like mininova who fulfil a demand, but they do not have the controls of the smaller sites, and you can end up downloading a lot of bad sh*t from these bigger indexing sites. So, once you get into the BT world, you should look for invites to the smaller private trackers, where content is moderated.
I'm by no means an expert, just an "Habitue".
I always advise people considering file sharing to consider Bit Torrent for the safety involved in the private trackers. Yes, there are mega sites like mininova who fulfil a demand, but they do not have the controls of the smaller sites, and you can end up downloading a lot of bad sh*t from these bigger indexing sites. So, once you get into the BT world, you should look for invites to the smaller private trackers, where content is moderated.
fascistbaraq
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pleasuredome is old
delta_beta
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just to put in my twopen'orth
Fatal was one of the first "private" trackers that I joined many many moons ago & still belong to.
Although I have walked away from almost all torrenting now, Fatal is always a pleasure to return to, the staff & members are & always have been second to none.
theres a lot of staff/users & trackers that could take a look & a leaf from Fataltrackers book
This is how it should be done
Fatal was one of the first "private" trackers that I joined many many moons ago & still belong to.
Although I have walked away from almost all torrenting now, Fatal is always a pleasure to return to, the staff & members are & always have been second to none.
theres a lot of staff/users & trackers that could take a look & a leaf from Fataltrackers book
This is how it should be done
SolidStateLogic
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it's a lame tracker
italianpoptart
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@Naix we stay alive because we enjoy the site and the people . Numbers dont matter. We used to be a popular midlevel site , a staff member had a meltdown and banned 400+ peeps in like 3 days before anyone found out about it .Since then we havent recovered, word got out that fatal was a bad place. That was 4 years ago, since then we've had our small tight community , didnt advertise much, basically worked on word of mouth.
We keep to ourselves, and our members are great.
Freeleech is the norm on the site , I can say honestly its more free than not . Ratios arent a biggie , in fact we went ratioless for while . The oldtimers couldnt live without there numbers :lol:
With our small community we have managed to keep the monthly costs down to a very manageable amount , so even in the hardtimes we can still survive.
Our uploaders have the best axx around , that coupled with top .ru sites gives us the pretimes and material needed to stay at the level we are accustom to.
General Trackers are a nickel a dozen now days, we dont try to compete. If our members that join this month stay .... I hope they enjoy the site as much as I . If they choose not ... so be it . We will still be there.
@benficao, proxy problem on the tracker or forums ? These are separate servers (in case one goes down we are still in contact with the other). I should be able to clear your IP once I figure out which its on.
We keep to ourselves, and our members are great.
Freeleech is the norm on the site , I can say honestly its more free than not . Ratios arent a biggie , in fact we went ratioless for while . The oldtimers couldnt live without there numbers :lol:
With our small community we have managed to keep the monthly costs down to a very manageable amount , so even in the hardtimes we can still survive.
Our uploaders have the best axx around , that coupled with top .ru sites gives us the pretimes and material needed to stay at the level we are accustom to.
General Trackers are a nickel a dozen now days, we dont try to compete. If our members that join this month stay .... I hope they enjoy the site as much as I . If they choose not ... so be it . We will still be there.
@benficao, proxy problem on the tracker or forums ? These are separate servers (in case one goes down we are still in contact with the other). I should be able to clear your IP once I figure out which its on.
@Fishy02 - you can join the forums at http://www.fataltracker.net/ and after a few posts maybe someone will give you a tracker invite.....
@Swift - approx 6 years
@B3owulf - If that is so, Linkomania would be older than Fatal Tracker by about a year.
The only person who could really confirm Fatal Tracker's age would be the original owner, Verve, or one of his colleagues of the time.....
I think the point was that there were few trackers that old still alive today. It's rare for communities to survive that long. Even Firefox browser didn't exist back then ! (I used Netscape).
The protocol was invented in late 2002 by Bram Cohen, as some will remember. Its use developped in 2003 and soon became adopted by file sharers. By the early part of 2004, it was becoming widely used by file sharers, and sites were springing up all over the world.
Encryption was developped mostly in 2006, the first being Bit Comet in late 2005 (PHE = Protocol header encryption) and then Azureus developped MSE (message stream encryption). Then Azureus and uTorrent got together and finalised PE = Protocol Encryption which is still used today.
So, really, you are not going to get BT sites older than 7 years, and very few that old.
There is a new type of Bit Torrent being developped atm by a French-Canadian torrent site that looks very exciting - TorrentSoap. If you are francophone, you can read about it here : http://www.journaldupirate.com/?p=3172 and here : http://www.torrentsoap.com/
The site, still running classic BT atm is : http://www.torrentqc.com
It will be, they promise, a decentralised p2p application based on Bit Torrent but tracker-less and encrypted.
@Swift - approx 6 years
@B3owulf - If that is so, Linkomania would be older than Fatal Tracker by about a year.
The only person who could really confirm Fatal Tracker's age would be the original owner, Verve, or one of his colleagues of the time.....
I think the point was that there were few trackers that old still alive today. It's rare for communities to survive that long. Even Firefox browser didn't exist back then ! (I used Netscape).
The protocol was invented in late 2002 by Bram Cohen, as some will remember. Its use developped in 2003 and soon became adopted by file sharers. By the early part of 2004, it was becoming widely used by file sharers, and sites were springing up all over the world.
Encryption was developped mostly in 2006, the first being Bit Comet in late 2005 (PHE = Protocol header encryption) and then Azureus developped MSE (message stream encryption). Then Azureus and uTorrent got together and finalised PE = Protocol Encryption which is still used today.
So, really, you are not going to get BT sites older than 7 years, and very few that old.
There is a new type of Bit Torrent being developped atm by a French-Canadian torrent site that looks very exciting - TorrentSoap. If you are francophone, you can read about it here : http://www.journaldupirate.com/?p=3172 and here : http://www.torrentsoap.com/
The site, still running classic BT atm is : http://www.torrentqc.com
It will be, they promise, a decentralised p2p application based on Bit Torrent but tracker-less and encrypted.
Culture Vulture
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brigitte b
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Why didn't you guys adapt to the new stuff added on trackers ?
The Real Britney
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and thats why you signed up
viky_khanna
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FatalTracker is 7 years old .. hence it is the oldest Private bittorrent tracker .. hypernova or something like that was a public tracker but it was shut down ..
QueenOfChaos
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I recently received a mail / pm from a tracker which mentioned that they were celebrating their fifth anniversary. I just can't remember where I read that.
FSC probably?
FSC probably?
@ Swift
What I didn't mention above was DHT - a really big threat to private trackers, but most trackers nowadays detect and block or ban users using it. The concept of distributed database is laudable, and certainly in the intentions of Bram in that it made Bit Torrent even more efficient, but the publishing of all the peers on a torrent to all and sundry was not exactly what private trackers were about !
However, I don't see what you mean by 'the new stuff added on trackers.'
If it's security, we use the latest scripts. If it's Bitsoap, well that's still under development, and I'm watching TQC to see how they implement it, if and when they do. The idea of trackerless Bit Torrent has been around for a while and various programmers have been looking at it. You still need the site, but the site only has a highly encrypted database and having made an encrypted torrent link on demand, does not store it anywhere on its server longer than a few minutes, so no records to reveal users activity on the server.
This would be ideal for small private trackers and for huge indexing sites both, of course.
What sets Bit Torrent apart from other file-sharing protocols such as Limewire and Bearshare is the central control over torrents, and therefore the ability to control content and ban malicious users from the tracker, making it a much safer proposition. How this would work with the new ideas in BitSoap I would like to see, because as soon as it becomes uncontrolled and no longer censorable, it opens the door for these evil beggars that like to trick you into downloadning all sorts of malware.
Don't understand what you're getting at ?
What I didn't mention above was DHT - a really big threat to private trackers, but most trackers nowadays detect and block or ban users using it. The concept of distributed database is laudable, and certainly in the intentions of Bram in that it made Bit Torrent even more efficient, but the publishing of all the peers on a torrent to all and sundry was not exactly what private trackers were about !
However, I don't see what you mean by 'the new stuff added on trackers.'
If it's security, we use the latest scripts. If it's Bitsoap, well that's still under development, and I'm watching TQC to see how they implement it, if and when they do. The idea of trackerless Bit Torrent has been around for a while and various programmers have been looking at it. You still need the site, but the site only has a highly encrypted database and having made an encrypted torrent link on demand, does not store it anywhere on its server longer than a few minutes, so no records to reveal users activity on the server.
This would be ideal for small private trackers and for huge indexing sites both, of course.
What sets Bit Torrent apart from other file-sharing protocols such as Limewire and Bearshare is the central control over torrents, and therefore the ability to control content and ban malicious users from the tracker, making it a much safer proposition. How this would work with the new ideas in BitSoap I would like to see, because as soon as it becomes uncontrolled and no longer censorable, it opens the door for these evil beggars that like to trick you into downloadning all sorts of malware.