Family Guy - "Brian & Stewie" - Talkback [5/2]

People are trying too hard to dissect the poop-eating scene and find logic in it. The logic is simple: Brian is a dog and eats are known to eat poop while Stewie was not only toying with Brian (as he said in the episode) but he also got a twisted sexual trill in making Brian do it, as evidenced in how much he enjoyed Brian cleaning his butt.
 
Forgot to mention above, but the second half of the episode? Mostly a waste. There were opportunities for Brian and Stewie to comment on various things during the clips MST3K-style (for instance, they could've remarked on Corey Haim being a dated reference, or that George W. Bush didn't end the world), but they mostly just ran stuff we've seen before. Meh.

Hence why I said "almost". Yes, they could've used the safety deposit box.

That said, without getting too graphic: If the poop was stored in the safety deposit box, wouldn't the room still stink? I'm pretty sure it would. Thus their problem wouldn't have been completely solved if they went that route.
 
The titular character in Family Guy is Peter. How would having "Brian & Stewie" as the series finale make any sense? I get that you like Stewie and Brian, but they aren't the only characters on the show. You wouldn't have South Park's final episode without Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny, and you wouldn't have the Family Guy series finale without Peter and the entire Griffin family.
 
I love how annoyed people are by that scene.

Seriously, I love it when FG does something gross like that since it annoys so many people.

I laugh at the scene itself and I laugh when reading the complaints directed at the scene and how annoyed people are by it.
 
I loved this episode. I liked how it wasn't as fast paced and was pretty much played straight. Brian eating Stewie's poop was gross, but you could tell that he pretty much had to and that the scene could have been a lot worse. Also like someone said before, the dialogue felt really natural. That's one of my favorite things about FG's style.

The second half of the episode was kind of a waste, but I didn't expect much from it anyway. I'm pretty sure it was intended as just a throwaway that'll be cut out of the reairings so the episode can fit the half-hour time slot. And we did get some deleted scenes out of it, although I'm disappointed that The List didn't make it in. I love that song.
 
While I guess its true, Peter is the main character.
I guess, it'd be like The Simpsons not having Homer in the finale episode.
I guess, I always just saw Stewie and Brian as you know mascots of the show as I said before. Just my opinion suppose :sweat:
 
I keep thinking about the Jerry Lewis musical number.
It started out strong, but as it went on I don’t think Peter has enough facial movement, or lips even, to really sell some of the variations in the music.
He had quite a few good facial expressions and I think the body language really worked well, especially at the start.
I may have to look it few more times to really decide.


Actually, what I appreciate most is that they knew when to stop and leave it be.
What was said was said. What was done was done.
No need to put a frame around it, deny, expand, expound or for anyone to intrude.
 
I saw this on Hulu last night, and I kinda liked it.

The poop eating scene kind of made me gag a bit, and it was only a little bit funny. Brian and Stewie drunk was hilarious, although the ear piercing was a bit too much.. The character development at the end was great, a once in a lifetime thing for Family Guy.

I didn't like the musicals at the end. With one exception, I really just wanted them to end. Especially 'Shipoopi' Ugh.
 
Well to be fair, that's only when it comes to long drawn out bits of conversation between the characters. WHenever someone learns a lesson, sets up a cutaway, or has a plot relevent conversation, the dialogue is incredibley forced and weak. Especially in the later seasons. Literally, if you sit down and analyze it, sometimes how they get from joke to joke is by just spewing bullcrap to get from one part of the conversation to the rest. Or just a bunch of generic tripe. This is obviously an exception since like I said the actual conversation is good, but let's face it: actual conversation in a usual ep is what 30% at most.



IMHO Peter's the easiest character to write for, and the easiest to involve in pretty much any story, but he has very very limited depth. Stewie and Brian over time have developed actual consistent personalities and have limitations on they're personalities you don't realy have as much with Peter. Peter is really more of the go to guy for the comedic backbone or for some random activity but that's really it. Unlike say Cartman of South Park who is both the show's most humorous yet at the same time most interesting character, Peter is just supposedly the funniest, as even Homer is a lot more complex by nature.

Then again I don't think even a simpsons relationship has actually gotten as overly complex as Stewie and Brian's. As someone pointed out this episode wouldn't of worked if the two didn't have they're long history behind them. Because it actually not only builds on that, but is actually why we feel something for them at the end. To me, anytime Peter said he loved Lois or that he learned some supposed lesson it felt empty and flat, like there was a problem there that needed solving and they just did it to be convientant. However when Brian admitts to thinking sometimes he'd end it all and not feeling his dog like instinct, that actually not only felt real, but something not just forced. As it was something in the background and it was identifable. And by that notion Stewie opening up felt more human as well because it didn't totally fix the problem. Brian still has his issues but now just feels better knowing Stewie does really care for him like that (and it naturally came out in some rather good lines, like Stewie admitting he only hurt Brian since Brian hurt him, or that he didn't just like Brian in a homosexual way). I guess the poop eating in the opening had a point but it did feel stretched out rather long, but I guess that's just the kind of humor they like. Having the end though be a character study shows a maturity FG actually has that isn't just shallow or something to pad time between all the jokes. THough really it can only be done with characters with 3D Personalities like Brian or Stewie. Locking anyone else in the safe for an hour just wouldn't of worked.
 
I love how they don't mention that the poop eating was off screen. Sure it was gross, but at least be honest about what exactly happened. That's how you lose credibility PTC - when you don't tell viewers the whole story.
 
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