Every tracker should have a "guest" account

Thank you sez. A little harsh but gets the point across ;)

I'm not trying to "get what I can't have". I already have a BcG account, I'm thinking its a good way to reduce traders/collectors. Even if I wanted to "get what I can't have", that doesn't make any sense at all. The point of a guest account is that you can't DL, post in the forums, ect. How is that in any way going to help you "get what you can't have"?:rolleyes: I think that it wouldn't affect security, and it could be a good addition. I may be right or wrong, thats what this thread is for.

As to the point of reviews, almost half the reviews seem to have outdated stats, broken pics, or more. And honestly, how are you supposed to tell everything about the tracker from 1 browse page or 1 forum SS? If the browse page SS is taken during the night, there may be less peers and thus skew opinions (or vice versa). And if the forums SS has millions of threads and posts in each section, but they're all "Rate that ass" or "Whats the last movie you watched" posts, how can you tell whether the community is really what you want?

So have a guest account. It doesn't have to be completely public. Maybe Anyone who has posession of invites can create a temporary guest account that lasts for an hour. To allow potential invitees to browse the site. Afterwards it dies.

I do realize that perhaps my initial suggestions may have been too public, but what about something like creating a temporary guest account? Or other suggestions?
 
Why not?

Recently at BCG they instituted a guest account so that potential members could see if they liked the content on the tracker and actually would want to use it, to eliminate possible unused accounts. However, soon after it was removed due to public postings of the guest account user/pw over a bunch of public forums.

I disagree with that decision, I think that every tracker should have a guest account, and that the benefits of having one far outweigh the losses.

First off, it would greatly reduce collecting and trading. The majority of collectors and traders are breeded simply from the fact that they want to join these "l33t" and "rare" trackers because they are a magical cesspool of rare, exclusive, fast, and amazing content that can't be found on any other trackers, failing to realize what the trackers are really for (community, security, or some other random niche). Ridiculously hyped, but almost impossible to get into, people turn to trading to find a way in. If they actually realized the content/peers may not be as good as their everyday 0day tracker, they could potentially not bother seeking it out anymore.

A point made against having guest accounts is obviously security. I call BS. The RIAA/MPAA aren't retarded. It's incredibly easy for any of them to find the tracker url, secret login mechanisms, or even get into the tracker itself through months of asskissing. Heck, even a simple google search, even with a little bit of effort, can easily tell you what any tracker URL is and what any initials stand for. Honestly, could it really be any more obvious what ScT stands for? If the feds couldn't even piece that together, they wouldn't be feds. A guest account wouldn't compromise the security of the users either. A guest account can't post, DL, or do anything else of significance. They can't snatch a torrent and log the IPs of the peers when they can't download anything. So why not? And guest accounts are the most benificial to the small, random, niche sites that value community, security, yadda yadda. With these small userbases, I really doubt the feds would have busting obscure torrent sites on their top priority. Limewire/public sites/LARGE private sites/FTPs are a far more vulnerable and useful target for feds to go after, and I don't think sites should be concerned either way.

Thoughts?
 
Why not invite all authorities there at same time?
It is those sorts of trackers they want to take out more than the little ones with just a few people grabbing stuff as can get a lot more people in one go
That will be why bcg got rid once common knowledge I would say.

So to cut along story short I think it is a dumb ass idea
 
I will never create a guest account for GTi. If people want to know about the site then they can ask members.
If you have friends on trackers ask them what it is like at the end of the day the collectors and traders etc will not give a dam what a tracker looks/is like to improve their e-penis
 
I tell you what. Sometimes it's not important that you wanna to become a part of any tracker community. It's much imortant then community needs you.
'guest' account is a typical shit. Your inviter is your friend (in the ideal situation) so your friend should know you (your interests, etc). If you get your invites from forum/trade etc ofc you wanna something like 'guest acc' btw i respect trackers privacy. So If You ask me about 'guest acc' in any tracker which I'm on, i tell you who are you and there you should go ;)
 
And what else will the "authorities" get from using a guest account? It isn't hard to get into BcG, and once they do, they have a lot more information than a guest account could ever provide. That's why I feel like a guest account can't hurt.
 
Every tracker should have a "guest" account

i think you should inform yourself about what the tracker is all about before you put energy into geting an invite. i mean bcg is is gaming tracker so thats what you can expect. there are reviews about most of the trackers on fst so it
 
I like that you put time, effort, and thought into your post, Rart.

Unfortunately, I disagree with your idea. As nice as it would be to reduce trading and drive away collectors, I would not put a clear door on my house to discourage thieves from breaking in. I will stick to my good old solid wood with the opaque, small window. Privacy is good. Filtering of irresponsible, dangerous people is good. It is the same for trackers as it is for your house.
 
I would sooner have members invite some one in and then if they not like the place have them pm a staff member and have the account deleted and then the person who invited you have the invite given back.
Now I know other tracker staff/owners will more than likely disagree with me but that is just my opinion on a way for people to see if a site is some where they wish to be member of.
But to be fair the place where I would operate that a lot of the people who are invited come for the mma content and chat and know what to expect on that side of things
 
So this means you also give guest accounts to FBIs??

Some people just forget most content in torrent sites are illegal.. and want to attract public attention, really ridiculous...
 
jasperr said:
everybody always wants something for nothing.... this is a stupid thread!
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Thanks for your incredible input :rolleyes: If you haven't noticed, I'm trying to get feedback and get a discussion going. I "respect" stoi and his decisions, BCG is personally one of my favorite trackers and I think the staff their is great. I'm just providing my thoughts on the topic. If you think my ideas are completely wrong, it would help to back up your claims.

aen said:
I tell you what. Sometimes it's not important that you wanna to become a part of any tracker community. It's much imortant then community needs you.
'guest' account is a typical shit. Your inviter is your friend (in the ideal situation) so your friend should know you (your interests, etc). If you get your invites from forum/trade etc ofc you wanna something like 'guest acc' btw i respect trackers privacy. So If You ask me about 'guest acc' in any tracker which I'm on, i tell you who are you and there you should go ;)
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Sorry it's really hard to follow your post. But if I understood you correctly, I'm not saying that invitees from trades/invite forums want guest accounts to see whats on the tracker, I think that if those types of people actually "saw" the content on that tracker instead of just following the hype and mystery surrounding levels, they'd realize that the content wasn't as impressive as they thought (or the opposite, that the "community" is quite impressive and is what they're really looking for). This could potentially reduce the traders/invite forum people who are frantically looking for "secret" or "l33t" trackers.

I don't quite understand how you're factoring "me" into this equation either. I have no intention of wanting to join these "secret" trackers and I could really care less about their communities. FST is good enough for me. I just feel like having guest accounts could reduce collectors, traders, inactive accounts, and more for any tracker. For the reasons I listed I don't think it really compromises security at all, and I think "privacy" fits into the same realm as security, the feds aren't stupid and if they really wanted to go after your tracker, a secret login and url you can find on google isn't going to stop them.
 
I don't agree with guest accounts, because they will never discourage traders because they want to use invites as currency, but I've always thought along these lines:

Rart said:
The RIAA/MPAA aren't retarded. It's incredibly easy for any of them to find the tracker url, secret login mechanisms, or even get into the tracker itself through months of asskissing.
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Every tracker should have a "guest" account

eram said:
i think you should inform yourself about what the tracker is all about before you put energy into geting an invite. i mean bcg is is gaming tracker so thats what you can expect. there are reviews about most of the trackers on fst so it
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The guest account in my opinion is a good idea since it does give a person a look at the tracker without actually creating account. I wish I could have done this with a few trackers, instead of signing up, finding out that I don't like the site for whatever reason and then either deleting the account or letting it go to die. Which we've all done. You're not going to like every site you signup for.

But, there are some disadvantages to the guest account. Every tracker has at least a few douchebags for members. And like the case with BCG, one of those douches leaked the account details publicly(even after staff mentioned specifically on the home page not to do this). So there's that. Plus there's the disadvantage that has been mentioned already, that any undesirable person can look into your site.

So maybe instead of making a default guest account that just anyone can use, maybe make it to where when you send an invite to a friend of yours there's a link in the email to signup, like always, but also a guest account link so the person can check out the browse page/forums(which would be a link that could only be used once like the signup one).

This may not be the best idea either, but there's gotta be a way to let your trusted friend get a glimpse of the site before actually creating an account without giving the whole world the opportunity to look too.
 
Every tracker should have a "guest" account

@Rart about the guest accs...

Who, would hand out those guest accounts ? If not the staff itself ?
But, that would not happen, simple because, most off them put, on their irc topics, " no invite requestion / or talking " something like this.

If they're not even available to that possibility, ( talk to a possible member ) why would they be, to the guest account?

The guest account, could work on trackers, who have open signups, i don
 
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