End the Drug War

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He's a fucking idiot and doesn't understand freedom.

Maybe he should go ask his father.
 
First it was very few, now it's many?

The money wasted on trying to enforce unconstitutional laws would cover the cost of treating, and advertising the treatment of any who wish to quit their habits many times over. Prohibition is bottom line proof that these types of laws will never work.





Anything that allows for people who have done no harm to anyone else to go to jail is not a real solution, it's part of the problem.
 
I said earlier that cocaine abuse would double with legalization. That is very conservative compared to this expert prediction:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/debate/myths/myths2.htm



25 million cokeheads in the U.S. Don't you feel that would cause a serious problem for our country?
 
Libertarians dont beleive the government should be forcing anything. You're pulling at straws.
 
At least they're not in prison.

Wasn't coke the drug of choice for housewives who had a lot of work to do?

warning label:the surgeon general has determined that crack is wack!
 
Drugs will never be legalized because too many people depend on the illegal status for generating an income.
Law enforcement and the CIA/MI6 not the least of them. All the way down to a cop on the street and a drug dealer and his family.
It's the worlds biggest earner after illegal weapons, and pays for the insurgents weapons that we send troops to fight in Afghanistan.
 
As I said, to some it does. The war on poverty cant be won via taxation. It can only be won via change of socioeconomic perspectives of the people.
 
I don't believe legalization will lower costs of recreational drugs much because they are already very low.

http://m.randomhistory.com/2009/07/09_cocaine.html



That's less than I paid for cocaine in the early 80's.

http://www.whatrain.com/drugcontrol/control.html

Even ardent supporters of legalization admit that lower prices for drugs will entice many new users to become addicts as Timothy N. Radonich says at the start in "Stop the drug war: Controlling drugs through regulation" that "Low prices will encourage use."

People say that we spend too much money on the War on Drugs, but with the huge increase of addicts due to legalization, costs to the government will increase dramatically from health care costs, since what addict will pay for his or her own health care.

http://www.druglibrary.net/schaffer/debate/myths/myths5.htm



It would be smart to reduce the costs of fighting drugs by replacing incarceration with treatment and monitoring, yes and check.

I would even support having addicts going to a doctor and, if they can convince the doctor that they just can't do without pot and they have demonstrated an ability to tolerate it, then give them a prescription. That is sort of a compromise.

Nevertheless, medical marijuana as it is working now is the way to go.
 
alkaline has very little, if any objectivity here, and people can judge for themselves now can't they.

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=4494391
 
I did. Look at my orgininal response where I multi-quoted you. I made the relevant part bold with bigger text so they should be pretty easy to find.

Hell, I'll even post them again here:
 
But all the things DE mentioned involved the use of government force on the citizens. I'm wondering why you took a shot at DE for saying it.
 
We need to continue and expand the war against drugs. To the uneducated, it may seem that we have wasted a trillion dollars on a policy that has increased drug use and incarcerated hundreds of thousands of young people who have harmed no one else, but it's the only way to keep our youth morally upright. Prohibition would have worked if we had just given it more time. Eventually, all the criminal who made fortunes off of the alcohol trade would have made enough, then retired. At that point, no one would have been able to get hold of alcohol, and the good people would have had temperance, which would have made MADD redundant.
 
I had just talked about drug courts and mandated treatment there, so of those people, few would seek it on their own.



It is not unconstitutional to protect the young and inexperienced from dangerous drugs, and your arguments have sounded a lot like I read here:

http://policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=533&issue_id=32005



Do you favor legalizing heroin, cocaine, and meth?
 
But that is exactly why they should be legal. Think of the tax savings and profits for people and "legitimate government" when the corrupt system has less to do. Starve the corruption through legalization. If we don't demand it then people will never have power. I know it's still idealistic because the drug war propaganda keeps it that way.

People might begin to make a real stand one day.

(sing it louder than hippies: Imagine there's no drug war...hahahaha)
 
A person shouldn't have to be hurt real bad in order to enjoy the many benefits of one of the greatest gifts nature has to offer (herbs). Processed drugs could remain expensive to cover cost and recovery, and not to encourage abuse. There are common sense solutions for every drug problem, especially after the stigma and danger of criminalization is removed.
 
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