End the Drug War

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If you dont want to deal with it, stay in your house.

(I realize you're trolling like a motherfucker, but this is fun)
 
I read all that before I posted the link and other quote, yes. What is your point?
 
Serious flaw in your theory: take twelve kids from the same neighborhood with equal access to drugs, one obviously becomes an alcoholic at a young age, another doesn't like alcohol too much but smokes weed often, another gets into coke, one wonders off and becomes a heroin addict/prostitute, a few were more into shrooms; they all thought cigarettes were lame and bad for you so none of them smoked or drank much coffee. They ended up with different kinds of jobs; some died younger than others...that was life.

They did not all become addicts no matter what the Government did, and they definitely did not all become addicted to coke or any one drug in particular. Most never never got addicted to drugs yet maybe addicted to porn or the internet or gambling...the point is we all have a drug of choice. If some drugs are more evil than others, it's still your choice.

Reality proves that different people make different choices. The government has no right or ability to interfere with reality, it only makes things much worse when it selfishly tries to dominate/prohibit an aspect of existence that requires personal choice. This concept of choice does not apply to real crimes that harm OTHERS--not just self.
 
And for your other part, the war on poverty doesnt mean welfare systems (to some, maybe, but not fundamentally). It means allowing anyone who wants to rise out of poverty have an equal chance at acheiving their goals as someone who's born into wealth.
 
Really, you don't see the problem? I even used bold and a bigger font to help you find it.

In your earlier post you include a quote stating the War on Drugs should be continued because it has proven to be succesfull, highlights inluding 95% of Americans do not use drugs and a 70% decrease in cocaine use.

In your later post arguing that legalization will cause useage to increase you quote statistics on cocaine use stating the number of cocaine users increased by 1000% between 1975 and 1986, then an addititonal 20% increase between 1986 and 2000.
 
You feel it's in keeping with libertarian values in allowing the government to force me to stay in my house if I choose to not associate with certain groups?

I'm actually not trolling. I just find your perspective on libertarianism to be remarkable.
 
The overriding factor is that kids and young people want to have fun and don't believe that anything they do will harm them. Like I said earlier, what will they choose, going to a movie or snorting coke?

At parties now, we see beer and alcohol everywhere. When coke is legal, it will also be plastered all over the parties. Kids and people are going to do it just because it's right in front of them, and they want to party hardy. That will then lead many to drug abuse on their own, because all it takes is one use of coke to get it all started.



http://m.randomhistory.com/2009/07/09_cocaine.html
 
Yes, reform them by eliminating them.




No, they are dangerous and contary to freedom.



Provably untrue.



Reforms in terms of elimination will often be discussed.
 
What you're saying here doesn't make a lot of sense, and I'm not going to look all over the place to try and figure out what you're talking about. You might consider posting the exact quotes you're talking about.
 
I was skimming through that thread until I got to this:




Life is risky. The problem there is that it is ILLEGAL.

19 pages! ending with:



That seems to be the majority opinion here on which drugs to legalize. Obama said this was a big issue with people on the Internet before he laughed it off, then went on to become a lousy president...

I wonder what is the majority opinion of all people nationwide?
 
Pretty much. OT should infiltrate more conservative forums.

Edit: oh and get off the ass and be real activists.
 
The current "war on poverty" involves taxation. That was what I was referring to. So it's fair to say you agree that welfare as run by the government should be eliminated?
 
Many will get treatment on their own, yes. But there will still be many thousands of addicts each year that won't ever get treatment on their own.



This is a perfect example of a total disregard for real solutions, even when the greatest opportunity exists to discuss it.
 
At parties coke might not have been on the kitchen counter but it was in the bathrooms and bedrooms for easy access as much as anything else.

The one kid who got into heroin turned to prostitution because of who he had to hang around with to get it and because the illegality of it made it way too expensive...he died young. We can continue to blame the government on countless deaths like that or the government could end the war on drugs/citizens.

Coke/crack never did much for me when it was easily available. No-one really had a problem with it except one guy who worked a night shift.

If we put all the drugs on the table with everyone fully aware of the effects and side effects, not everyone will try them or like the same ones or ever get addicted. Much safer than forcing kids to become criminals to find out for themselves. Parents could still ground kids for reeking of weed or whatever they want=family responsibility.

Is this making sense? I'm not making this shit up. Been there done that. Addiction can be very challenging for anyone...still a PERSONAL CHOICE one way or the other--and easier to deal with if the law is not forcing someone deeper into hiding.
 
at least I discovered I'm allowed to start a thread without links.

yay.


mainly wanted to see if anyone in this place is for the drug war; good indicator of...
 
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