EDGE on Iphone vs EDGE on Nokia N95

What the iPhone does have over the N95:

Bigger screen and higher screen res

No out of memory errors (Come on Nokia!)

Much thinner

Better battery life (of course without GPS, 5mpx camera, it better have!)

Scratch resistant glass screen

And of course, OSX!


Making a list of what the N95 over the iPhone though would take way too long and I'm feeling lazy.
 
I get between 140-160 kbps consistently on my iPhone. I haven't experienced 3g but my phone sure does seem to surf what I consider to be fast for a cell phone. I hear everyone complain about the lack of 3g for the iPhone but, heck, mine surfs the web very adequately. I live in Dallas and have never had any complaints about EDGE
 
Well features only matter to people who want those particular features. Everything you mentioned except for GPS can be added to the iPhone with future upgrades. I somehow get the feeling people are not so confident the N95's interface is going to be drastically improved as it is based on hardware controls which can't be changed, not that is is bad. The N95 isn't going to get a touch screen through a software update. I think people get excited over the possibilities of the iPhone, maybe some of it is misplaced maybe some isn't though. I think after a few software updates we will get a better idea of where Apple wants the iPhone to go and see if that conflicts with where their customers want it to go.

FlyPenFly, I did see my iPhone hit in the 250+ kbps range at my office almost every time I checked it a couple of weeks ago. I used a couple of iPhone specific bw testers but my office reception is unusually good, at home I usually get around 200ish but I only use EDGE now when I am out and about and find it more than adequate but it does suck up more juice than wifi. Latecncy is not great but then again so are most mobile wireless techs.
 
Jerry i agree with u, thats why i asked what did they use the n95 for, you cant really compare the 2, they have some features that are the same but totally 2 different devices, its funny i always considered the nseries to be the macs of cellphones, because of there graphics. slide shows, pretty screens and overall ui compared to windows mobile.
 
Once you get past those who just like the GUI in general I think the biggest differentiator between iPhone buyers and other advanced handsets really comes down to how high on your priority list is the iPod. I think many consumers also like the iTunes as the gateway to all that goes on the iPhone to keep it simple. If you don't care much for music or iPod functionality then the iPhone will probably not do so great in a feature by feature match-up but like I said features only really matter to people who want them.

Just out of curiosity what do N95 owners do as far as desktop software? iTunes on a Mac/PC lets you set up and keep synced all your music, videos, contacts, bookmarks etc. What is the Nokia desktop sync situation? The odd thing is I have seen tons of stuff about the Nseries but I don't recall ever even seeing or hearing about that. Just curious.
 
Nokia PC Suite, which actually works pretty well. It even syncs over Bluetooth.

Whats also great is the Exchange Active Sync support for push email and universal contact list support. Very handy if you have multiple smartphones since it keeps everyone in sync including calendars.
 
Jerry the amazing thing about the n95 is it syncs with itunes and the mac, i plug my n95 in and it transfers all my music to the n95 thru itunes , also isync and iphoto,its like having an ipod. Here are some links so you can see how its done
http://www.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_216017
http://www.nokia.com/A4423134

It also has nokia pc suite which allows you to sync thru windows media also, by the way it does have an awesome music player also, i can load podcast like the ipod or iphone also and it handles same video h.264 playback and many other types also because of the 3rd party optioins.
 
Like I said before, there are features I miss from the N95, especially the video recording & the games. But as someone else stated, most of the missing features, like MMS & voice dialing, will be fixed in future updates. Also A LOT of missing features & programs have already been written for it as web apps & there are web sites like mockdock.com that actually organize all your web apps to look like the iPhone home screen so it works the same way (and yes there are several full Bibles & dictionaries out there). Also, it depends on how much you use certain features as to whether you will miss them. If you uses A2DP or video recording ALL the time, then maybe the iPhone isn't for you. I never used A2DP (I haven't seen a pair of headphones light enough) and the GPS is still slow to use because of how you have to type in the addresses & navigate without a touchscreen. Personally Google maps on the iPhone is all i need.

Again, the iPhone isn't for everybody & I didn't think I'd like it BECAUSE of all the missing features, but it is all around SO much faster to use than the N95 (or any other phone), that I USE 100% of it's functionality, where I probably only used about 20% of the N95 because it is just not as easy to navigate. So what's the point of having all these great features if they are not being used? It takes so long for the video camera to start working, that most of the time the "moment" has ended, same with the still camera & I LOVED playing games on the N95 (I had MAME & SNES on it), but the button layout is so poor that if I was playing a great game of Donkey Kong or Super mario, I would always accidentally hit the home button if I tried to go left & it would take me out of the game, so I'd end up playing something less intense, like Bejewelled - which I've ALREADY found a touchscreen version of for the iPhone that works great!

Also, everyone keeps talking about the class difference between the 2 phones & how much faster the update has made the N95 and all this other crap. The bottom line is that it depends on WHERE you are as to how much Edge speed you are getting on either phone. Edge is totally dependent on how much traffic is going through the nearest tower. HOWEVER, as stated before, the touchscreen Safari interface, screen size, KEYBOARD & the fact that you can blow up the text as big as you want so it will be legible just by touching the screen, make browsing on the iPhone a MUCH more enjoyable and faster experience regardless of Edge speeds - not to mention that I can actually look at several pages at once, which is impossible to do on the N95 because of all the memory errors. On the N95, I only used the internet to find out movie times & the weather because it was such a pain to use, on the iPhone I use it as a portable computer.
 
I hear you on the key presses it is kind of annoying, as for web based programs, i cant possibly seeing that as faster then me clicking an app and opening it, using the web on the n95 is an amazing thing also, in some cases can be nicer than iphone in other cases cant compare, mini map on n series is awesome, saving images or just veiwing images is awesome, rss feeds are just a click and here saved, yes the user experience might have the wow factor, but not sure if its better meaning when i was browsing on the iphone, the page first loads like a full web page cant even see the writing, have to touch screen to enlarge then scroll around with finger to get where i want to, cool factor is nice but to me physical buttons are nicer, but anyway glad u gave me your responses, and i would have had an iphone also but Att will void my discount so no phone is worth that.
 
I work for AT&T & I was able to get around the discount thing by making my daughter's line the main line on our family plan. We still get the discount because the "Main line" is not an iPhone.

And you are correct, the internet experience on the N95 is the best out there of any other phone I've seen, all the kudos you gave it are well deserved. UNTIL I used the iPhone. Then I just couldn't go back... it IS that good...
 
Hey martin about the discount, they tell me time and time again, it will void discount on all lines, cingular screwed up and made my wifes phone the main line, so i was adding iphone to my line,but they say i will lose my discount and i work for the u.s.p.s 50% off handsets and accessories, and 25% off monthly bill.
 
That should actually benefit all users of EDGE on the AT&T network. I find that EDGE speeds are quite variable. I did a benchmark test on my n95 with AT&T and T-Mobile on Friday and AT&T was about 50% faster. I did the same test on Saturday and T-Mobile got the edge by about 25%. In general, I get as slow as 70kbps and as fast as 175 kbps on either network.

I agree that things such as processor speed will also affect how the phones render pages. The iPhone has a speedy 612 MHz ARM processor, and I think the n95 has a 377MHz processor (still above average, but not quite as quick as the iPhone). OS X also makes better use of RAM than S60, so certain pages are likely to render more quickly on the iPhone. n95 will also try to load flash lite and java applets, so certain pages might also load more slowly. That's why Opera Mini can sometimes come in handy on the n95.
 
I'd go with whatever AT&T tells you. I work for the AT&T Real Yellow Pages and all they give us is a 10% discount (crazy, right?? We also didn't get any discounts or free iPhones like Apple employees did). Since you get 25% & don't work directly for AT&T, your discount probably works differently...
 
That sounds like my story exactly, my N95 has been in the box since iI got the iPhone last Tuesday(and probably end up on eBay). I just can't see going back to physical buttons. I really do miss MMS though, and hopefully they will enable it in a software update.
 
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