Eat the fat!

On 04/03/2011 6:18 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:



I was not talking about people who put on a few pounds and were a little
overweight due to over eating or lack of exercise. I meant huge,
absolutely enormous. I don't have a lot of faith in the BMI system
because it doesn't count for large frames with big bones and muscles,
but I could see a height versus width index. When you are half as wide
as you are high, you have a serious problem.
 
On 3/4/2011 5:29 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

Perhaps there're more genetic considerations when it comes to diets,
HDL-vs-LDL ratios, and coronary disease ?? Some folks can tolerate a
high-fat diet with lots of butter & cream & such, while others cannot.
Medical science, for all its advances in the past century & more, still
has so much to discover and learn.

Sky

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Janet Wilder wrote:



Janet Wilder,

We hardly ever gave Annabelle meal scraps. Too many food "poison" myths.

This much is for sure, she hated pancakes and donuts and would bury them
inside the furniture and out in the yard.

Maybe fat was what she craved!!! A flea repellant? I dunno.

Best,

Andy
 
"BigBadBubbas" wrote in message
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Are you serious? Honestly, if you were watching what you ate you didn't buy
into "fat free" labels. And serving sizes. Really, did you think you could
just eat as much as you want because someone said it was "fat free" or "low
fat"?

Beats me. I don't eat a lot of ice cream. It's the one sweet thing I
indulge in, a couple of scoops once every three or four months. The last
time I went to the grocery store they were out of coffee ice cream. That's
about the only one I like.

Jill
 
On 3/4/2011 5:34 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

I have to confess, I like a little fat, too. Favorite is the crispy fat
on a lamb chop.

fruit is high in carbhydrates. It's good for you if you are not diabetic
of low carbing.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
 
On 3/4/2011 7:05 PM, Andy wrote:

LOL! She could become a therapy dog for dieters! Take away the
fattening donuts and pancakes and save the owner's life.

DH got some new partial dentures that are bothering him so he took them
out and put them on the bed next to him where he was watching TV. That
darned little dog stole his teeth and hid them in the living room. I
couldn't stop laughing.

When Mickey was a puppy I had bought a bunch of new towels and bath mats
to redo our bathroom. I didn't like the color so I put everything back
in the huge JC Penney bag and it sat in the bedroom for a few days until
I could return it. You can imagine my embarrassment when the lady at
JCP emptied the bag and took out a spare rib bone! She asked me if I was
returning the bone, too. I gotta keep an eye on that pooch.



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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
 
"BigBadBubbas" wrote:
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Zactly. My 'healthy choice' on ice cream is to make the richest, most
satisfying concoction I can-- and choose to eat a small scoop of it
once a week or so.

I'm eating less and enjoying it more. [and might just live longer in
the process]

Jim
 
On 3/4/2011 6:38 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

Apparently there's a different way to analyze your fat mass.
Bioelectrical Impedance analysis.

"Height-Weight Tables were originally developed by insurance companies
to establish recommended weight ranges for men and women. The
"desirable" weights were those associated with the lowest mortality
among large population studies of insured people. Unfortunately, these
studies do not accurately represent a cross-section of the entire
American population."

"Bioelectrical Impedance
Body impedance is measured when a small, safe electrical signal is
passed through the body, carried by water and fluids. Impedance is
greatest in fat tissue, which contains only 10-20% water, while fat-free
mass, which contains 70-75% water, allows the signal to pass much more
easily. By using the impedance measurements along with a person's height
and weight, and body type (gender, age, fitness level), it is possible
to calculate the percentage of body fat, fat-free mass, hydration level,
and other body composition values. Conventional BIA normally uses
underwater weighing as its method of reference.

Using BIA to estimate person's body fat assumes that the body is within
normal hydration ranges. When a person is dehydrated, the amount of fat
tissue can be overestimated. Factors that can affect hydration include
not drinking enough fluids, drinking too much caffeine or alcohol,
exercising or eating just before measuring, certain prescription drugs
or diuretics, illness, or a woman's menstrual cycle. Measuring under
consistent conditions (proper hydration and same time of day) will yield
best results with this method."

More:
http://new-fitness.com/body_fat_measuring.html
 
On 06/03/2011 3:09 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:



Good luck with that. It is the same approach that I used. I have been
making my own ice cream for at least five years. I find the rich creamy
ice cream very satisfying and would occasionally have a small service,
maybe once a week at the most. Maybe it was the liver pate canapes
almost every night, or the cream cheese on crackers with red pepper
jelly, or the daily donuts. Something managed to clog up my coronary
arteries.
 
On 09/03/2011 6:41 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:



FWIW..... in this area, cardiac patients given several booklets with
useful information and are referred to the regional cardiac
rehabilitation program, which involves a overview session that talks
about diet among other things. You can also arrange to go to a group
lecture on diet or have a personal appointment with a dietitian.

After my angiogram which turned into emergency open heart surgery, I
ended up in the program and opted for the personal appointment with the
dietitian. She made a list of the types of food that I used to eat, the
stuff I was currently eating, and made reccomendation about what I
needed to change.

Beef was not rejected completely, but I was told to go for leaner cuts
and to cut off the fat. I was also told to limit meat portions to 4-6 oz.

I was also told to use low fat dairy products. That meant cutting out
whipped cream, butter, whole milk, switching to lo fat cheese and yogurt.

No more deep fried foods.
 
On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:10:11 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:


That's the advice my husband got too. He didn't need to lose weight,
but he needed to start healthier eating. All saturated fat counts
toward the recommended daily amount of saturated fat, even if it's
from a plant.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
sf wrote:
"Some" fat is necessary, sf. Just because your husband had blockages
doesn't mean everyone does. Look at the French and Mediterranean diets.
They're not entirely fat free.
 
On 3/10/2011 2:01 AM, Goomba wrote:

There needs to be some fat in everyone's diet as certain vitamins are
not absorbed unless there is fat present. That's why pediatricians
suggest 2% milk and not skim.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
 
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:09:16 -0600, Janet Wilder
wrote:


Have I ever said our diets must be "fat free"? There limits to how
much saturated fat we can consume on a daily basis. Most people are
like Tom and just gorge.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 07:51:53 -0800, sf wrote:


As I did until 1998 when I had a massive heart attack and a 5X bypass.

My whole life, I thought I was immune to the effects of the fatty diet
I ate. I learned differently.

It's a long road to get the heart attacks and its an equally long road
recovering from bypass surgery.

If one can start smart with eating, it will save a lot of time, pain
and work.
 
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:23:47 -0500, Alfie wrote:


Ouch!

It's especially hard to make lifestyle changes when nothing obvious,
like obesity is an issue.

You're not alone here in rfc.

One can only hope a little information is passed on from one
generation to the next. My children are pretty smart eaters,
hopefully their children will learn to be also.


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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
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