E61 & Push email

The thing is, it isn't just a problem withe phone at all. Even Thunderbird reports a similiar problem. No matter what I set it to download, new messages or all messages, if I receive a message and read it through gmail's web interface first, this rendering it "read", Thunderbird absolutely will not download it under any circumstances.

I have gone into my gmail settings and enabled pop3 downloading for all messages received at any time, even already-downloaded messages. Yet if I check for new mail with Thunderbird, and a message has already been read on the web interface, it reports "no new messages on server" and does not download anything.

Gmail has actually ackowledged this known issue with their own server software, and is supposedly working to fix it. I guess some mail clients are less susceptible to it than others, but it's definitely a Gmail-side issue.
 
Okay I just have to correct what I said above. The problem is not that Thunderbird will not download messages that have been read on the website. It is that Thunderbird does not download messages once they have already been downloaded by either the default E61 mail client, or Profimail for that matter, even if "leave on server" has been selected.

You said that you've been using Profimail, and while it is not as you say affected by the vanishing messages problem, have you been able to download pop3 messages with it, and then subsequently use a regular PC mail client to also download the same messages after the fact?

I also just tested the E61 default mail client with another POP3 mail account besides Gmail, and it works perfectly with that one. No vanishing messages as occurs with gmail.

So it's not exactly a Gmail problem, or an E61 default mail client problem, but rather a problem that only seems to occur during interaction between the two. They each work fine as long as it's not with each other.
 
OK, I see what you're saying. I've never run into this problem because I simply don't use my gmail accounts this way. I only view my gmail emails two ways: Using the web interface or using ProfiMail (or whichever mobile email app I'm using at the time). I don't use any PC-based app such as Outlook or Thunderbird as you're saying.

This problem occurs because gmail 'records' which emails have already been downloaded via POP and then no longer makes them available for POP download. In this manner it is definitely unlike other POP3 services.

I doubt that gmail will be changing any time soon though. In Google's eutopia, everything will be done through one of their online portals and no software would exist on any PC other than a light OS and a web browser...
 
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