Downton Abbey - ITV1
- Thread starter danette!
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I'm sorry, but there are several holes in your argument.
ITV1 is a free-to-air channel supported by advertising. It is hardly surprising that they wanted to sell as many slots as possible on a Sunday night in late September. That's how they get their income.
ITV will not see a penny from overseas sales of DA as it doesn't own the programme. Carnival Films does. ITV paid a large proportion of the budget, but Carnival had to get money from its owner, NBC, to make up the shortfall. It will recoup this through overseas sales, DVD sales and sales to digital channels (including the likes of ITV3).
The only way ITV could show DA without commercials would be if it was broadcast on a pay-TV channel. ITV has reportedly considered setting up something like this but so far made no decisions. Is DA an attempt at establishing a brand that could air on a pay-ITV channel? Perhaps ... but that would rather beg the questions: which other titles would join it? And what would happen to ITV's licence to broadcast as a free-to-air channel?
So yes, this is typically lazy Daily Heil journalism - just like it regurgitating Victoria Wood's criticism of the BBC from Monday's Guardian (and forgetting to mention that VW is still working for the BBC, her concerns aside).
And if viewers want to record DA and fastfoward through the commercial breaks, that's fine!
ITV1 is a free-to-air channel supported by advertising. It is hardly surprising that they wanted to sell as many slots as possible on a Sunday night in late September. That's how they get their income.
ITV will not see a penny from overseas sales of DA as it doesn't own the programme. Carnival Films does. ITV paid a large proportion of the budget, but Carnival had to get money from its owner, NBC, to make up the shortfall. It will recoup this through overseas sales, DVD sales and sales to digital channels (including the likes of ITV3).
The only way ITV could show DA without commercials would be if it was broadcast on a pay-TV channel. ITV has reportedly considered setting up something like this but so far made no decisions. Is DA an attempt at establishing a brand that could air on a pay-ITV channel? Perhaps ... but that would rather beg the questions: which other titles would join it? And what would happen to ITV's licence to broadcast as a free-to-air channel?
So yes, this is typically lazy Daily Heil journalism - just like it regurgitating Victoria Wood's criticism of the BBC from Monday's Guardian (and forgetting to mention that VW is still working for the BBC, her concerns aside).
And if viewers want to record DA and fastfoward through the commercial breaks, that's fine!
GRIMREAPER75
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Yes, but her lines do help!!
Aaah I see, ok.
Personally, I just think actors are actors, so long as they're good enough at their job.
Although, thinking about it, a fair few actors seem to leave major soaps, never to be heard of again unless they manage to work their way back in to the old role (thinking moreso of Eastenders here, which I have never watched, but which you can hardly escape mention of)
But I wouldn't generally call some of the actors who have appeared in Corrieetc. 'soap actors' implying that they're not good enough for anything else iyswim?
Only perhaps in the case of some who've been in an established role for decades and not been seen to do anything else.
Personally, I just think actors are actors, so long as they're good enough at their job.
Although, thinking about it, a fair few actors seem to leave major soaps, never to be heard of again unless they manage to work their way back in to the old role (thinking moreso of Eastenders here, which I have never watched, but which you can hardly escape mention of)
But I wouldn't generally call some of the actors who have appeared in Corrieetc. 'soap actors' implying that they're not good enough for anything else iyswim?
Only perhaps in the case of some who've been in an established role for decades and not been seen to do anything else.
If I was to make a criticism, could have done without the casting of the Corrie and Benidorm actors (the footman and the maid) cheapened it a bit for me and reminded me why I dislike ITV (they were good enough in their roles, I'm not criticising the actors, just the decision to cast them).
kirby242007
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Great fun. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I felt Penelope Wilton's cutting edge approach to medicine, and bullying of the doctor, to be a bit far-fetched; also, the music hall background to the butler felt very minor and tacked-on. Despite that, it was all eminently watchable. The storylines and characters are all building up nicely. Loved Dan Stevens being awkward with servants.
This is proper, good, old-fashioned "telly of the week".
Is the cook really called "Mrs Fatwa"?
I felt Penelope Wilton's cutting edge approach to medicine, and bullying of the doctor, to be a bit far-fetched; also, the music hall background to the butler felt very minor and tacked-on. Despite that, it was all eminently watchable. The storylines and characters are all building up nicely. Loved Dan Stevens being awkward with servants.
This is proper, good, old-fashioned "telly of the week".
Is the cook really called "Mrs Fatwa"?
rosenthalaaron1983
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Awe me too. I didn't want it to end tonight. Its getting better and better.
stained sports mom
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Agreed, although I didn't say there were yellow lines I just provided the link and as much as I have looked at that scene I cannot see the yellow lines but can clearly see the other two errors - how easy would it have been just to airbrush that aerial 
As you can see Here
I know thats only a still but its easily enough done with motion video.
As you can see Here
I know thats only a still but its easily enough done with motion video.
$BoomBoom$
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Anyone know what dropsy is...or was?
polishprince12
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Ooooh, is there really?
badsoccerman
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Well her reaction was interesting, a mere kiss and a cuddle I think she could have dealt with. I thought her panicky reaction was partly down to the fear of being discovered and maybe having the same lurid thoughts in her head that I was .
I did find Mary endearing in that scene as she showed herself to be still an innocent woman into her late 20s.
I did find Mary endearing in that scene as she showed herself to be still an innocent woman into her late 20s.
It instantly established a believable house and family that felt authentic. Every character is well drawn and waiting to be explored. There was a nice balance of the obvious confortable Sunday night period cliche and some unexpected material - the disability storyline, the gay duke (guessed that as soon as he asked for Thomas, reminiscent of 'Maurice') the grandmother taking the most progressive line on inheritance, the American heiress wife (5% of the English aristocracy in the 1890s) etc. It was Gosford Park meets Jane Austen with the family comprising of daughters and their being unwanted distant heirs about to turn up to usurp the family seat. Bringing the educated middle class in to the mix like this will be very interesting.
We watched in HD and it was superbly lit, filmed and costumed with a host of minor interesting period details and behaviour such as no one remotely comprehending what electricity might do in the kitchen (put most of them out of a job, of course). Julian Fellowes had some of it re-shot because even though he and Sky News's Alastair Bruce (from the College at Arms) advised on 1912 protocol and behaviour, the directors didn't always quite get it right. They have defnitely got the look right for this sort of TV, every shot was beautiful, even the servants' corridors were atmospheric.
We watched in HD and it was superbly lit, filmed and costumed with a host of minor interesting period details and behaviour such as no one remotely comprehending what electricity might do in the kitchen (put most of them out of a job, of course). Julian Fellowes had some of it re-shot because even though he and Sky News's Alastair Bruce (from the College at Arms) advised on 1912 protocol and behaviour, the directors didn't always quite get it right. They have defnitely got the look right for this sort of TV, every shot was beautiful, even the servants' corridors were atmospheric.