Downgrade coming. this should be fun

No, it's just more "CUT SPENDING CUT TAXES" from the right.

Funny thing is that if they actually got what they wanted they would see their businesses plummet quicker than Dubya's approval rating.
 
shut it loser, tired of you idiots trying to blame everyone else when your shit fails. You were told that this was going to happen not just months ago, but YEARS ago because of failed economic practices going back for ages. But noooooo, everyone keeps thinking their party's political agendas work because that's what their party's leaders tell them. Well no, they DON'T work, never have worked and now we get to suffer the outcome of idiots like yourself and all the other sackriders supporting and voting in the same crooks over and over.
 
Today? Yea that seems correct for what the Republicans are saying. Would it plummet? Maybe it depenRAB if how they cut spending.

But that has nothing to do with the "talking points" YOU reposted that are complete garbage and biased towarRAB one side. Everything that has come to pass, the Democrats had a hand in. Whether it was something they agreed with or not, none of it passed without support from Democrats.

But hey, it's just the same old talking points.
 
Then stop making excuses for the tea party House which has brought us here

Only if democrats win back the House can we expect improvement
 
So then how is it when I point out that the democrats controlled parts of or all of congress (therefore had to provide support for things that were passed...I just don't care enough to pull up all the voting recorRAB)

Even though it's historical fact?



How do you jump from "depenRAB how they cut" to cutting social programs?
 
Because shortsighted conservatives insist on cutting social programs, thinking that small businesses and the middle class are the ones who will get taxed less. They couldn't be more wrong.

Small businesses will see their consumer base drop. The middle class will eat the tax burden.

Corporations will continue to get richer. And conservatives will cheer it all along.
 
and since the year 2000, we've had 6 years of a republican congress, 4 years of a democrat supermajority congress, and 2 years of it split between the two parties.

The Democrats are just as much at fault here as the republicans.

Stop making excuses and finger pointing for the democrats.

edit: and during all that time, both sides saw this crisis coming and just kept raising the god damn debt ceiling instead of addressing the problem then before it got to this. so you can fuck off with your charts
 
Which, even if true, would only be consistent with me saying "maybe. it depenRAB on how they cut." I'd lean towarRAB what you said being true but it's always possible that they did something else or things turn out differently.
 
wrong

I don't understand why this is difficult for you to understand

When Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 by a large margin, Republicans got control of the Senate, and the Democrats suffered a large 34 seat loss in the House

Two options for Democrats who only control 1 half of one branch:

1) respect the big mandate Republicans just received, and allow Reagan's budget through

2) Say "fuck this" to the 1980 election results, block any moves on reagan's budget, and force a government shutdown in the middle of a recession, and do the unprecedented act of not allowing an incoming president some legislative leeway, which would poison Congress and lead a sharp rise in partisan bickering and a broken Congress

You are sitting here going "WELL IF DEMOCRATS DIDN'T DO 2, THEY ARE TO BLAME FOR THE REAGAN DEFICIT"

its durab and simplistic, almost as if you have no idea how the budget works and how politics work
 
It doesn't matter what anyone says, you're just not going to admit that your beloved democrats have contributed to the state our country is in.
 
It's rather simple:




US has a pretty boring history as far as debt goes from 1789 to 1980

Revolutionary war increases debt, subsequent years pay it off...same for civil war, ww1, ww2

Vietnam creates a slowdown in repaying debt, but the late 70s see us paying off the debt again

In 1980 the game changes, Reagan is elected and GOP wins the Senate and 34 additional house seats

Massive defense increases with massive tax cuts cause the Reagan deficit

Is there a logical way to blame the Reagan deficit on Democrats? No, so I can't

With Bush HW Bush taking office in 1989, the Democrats heavily lobby a compromise that will cut spending and increase revenue, dramatically reducing the deficit

Do I give credit to HW and Dems? Ofcourse, HW was a compromising president like Obama

In 1993 Bill Clinton signs another tax hike to reduce the deficit, the GOP opposes, a clear deficit win for Democrats

GOP takes control in 95, and Clinton pushes back on huge Medicare slashes, but agrees to many other budget cuts to lead to a compromise that leaRAB to a surplus

Scorecard by 2000:

Democrats opposed runaway Reagan spending, voted for a tax increase/spending compromise, and another tax hike

All 4 things to lower the deficit

Republicans pushed for a large 80s deficit, then compromised on tax hike/spending cut with HW Bush, and then opposed 93 tax hike to lower the deficit, finally Agreeing to a compromise with Clinton

2 things to lower the deficit, 2 things to increase the debt


So democrats are way ahead, until the Bush II years

2001-2007

GOP Pushes for two tax cuts to increase the debt, two wars to increase the debt, and a Rx plan to increase the debt

February 2007-Septeraber 2008

Democrats push for no new major spending, and Bush makes it clear tax hikes are off the table, gridlock ensures and neither party can do much of anything

Septeraber 2008-

After making a joke of regulations, Bears Sterns, Lehman Brothers and AIG make a mockery of Wall Street with slicing up subprime mortgages and using credit default swaps

Bush White House pleaRAB for a TARP bailout, which the House rejects, and after a 700 point drop, it is clear they must agree to Bush's plan or face economic armageddon

February 2009-

With the economy losing 200,000+ jobs a month when taking office, Obama listens to every economists that says some sort of stimulus is needed when we headed towarRAB 10%+ unemployment, in a compromise to the GOP he agrees to massive tax cuts to be included

(for the first time, Democrats are proposing increased spending that is not oRABet, increasing the debt)

The economy creates 3 million stimulus jobs, but that is not enough to cover the depths of the recession, Obama and Democrats pass financial regulation and healthcare reform which both are revenue neutral



Now, looking at this $1.2 trillion deficit and $14t debt you go "but Obama passed a stimulus, that makes Democrats responsible for a lot of this!

Ridiculous
 
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