Does Your God Have Earthly History?

deonamihouse

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Tacitus and the Younger Pliny spoke about a historical Jesus.

In fact Suetonius, a secular historian writing in 52 AD confirmed tthe existence of a historical Man called Jesus of Nazareth, The Galilean.

By this time, The God who became Man had returned to His Throne in Heaven barely 19 years earlier, so Suetonius couldnt have been writing about a myth.

That is The Man who is my God and Saviour.

whom do you believe ?

what is his/her history?
 
As regards to Tacitus, in the Annals he mentions Christians, he does not confirm the existence of an historical Jesus. There is also a possibility that this passage is a fake. It was never used as a source by early church fathers when they wrote on the persecution of Christians. As a widely read author Tacitus should have been used by them. the main suspect for the forgery is the Christian apologist Sulpicius Severus.

Again Pliny mentions Christians, he does not confirm the existence of an historical Jesus.

Suetonius mentions Christians and Chrestus not Jesus Christ. As an educated man he would have recognised the word and implications of the Greek word Christ, so we can say with confidence that he was reporting a second hand rumour rather than actual first hand experience.

There is not a single direct confirmation of the existence of Jesus outside the bible and the fact that he was not mentioned by Philo of Alexandria and other contemporary Jewish chroniclers is very telling.
 
Suetonius wasn't born until 69 AD and didn't write that passage until around 120 AD.

He wrote the following:

"As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, he (Claudius) expelled them from Rome"

Chrestus was the Latin version of a common Greek name. It's possible it referred to Jesus, but not certain.

Note that he's talking about Jews, not Christians. Historians think the disturbance referred to, in which Claudius expelled Jews from Rome, which *was* around 52 AD, took place about 20 years after Jesus was supposed to have died. It's much more likely that a man named Chrestus instigated a disturbance among Jews and that's what Suetonius was writing about.

Tacitus (born in 56 AD) merely reports that a man he called Christus was executed and his followers caused trouble for the Romans. He had no firsthand information and there is absolutely nothing in there to indicate that the man in question was any kind of god.

Pliny the Younger merely wrote about the existence of Christians in 112 AD.

So, what we have is reports that a religious movement existed plus some suggestions from years later that there might have been an actual human behind the movement. There are still no contemporary reports or any reports outside the Bible that mention divinity.
 
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