lilmama072
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when arrested by mp or cid
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does civilian's fall under military rules?
- Thread starter lilmama072
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When you are on base you fall partially under military rules but it is limited.
The reason I say that is because you don't have to salute, you can be charged with conduct unbecoming and so on. There are many rules/laws that apply to only military persons because the law itself would only apply to people within the chain of command
You would be subject to the more common sense rules such as theft, murder violating security and so on.
Look at the signs as you enter the base they spell out what you are under while on a base.
ADDITION: I agree with the other that you will not go to a brig or a military court but you didn't ask about the justice system trial you said rules, I took that as meaning do the MP's CID have authority to arrest you and hold you to the rules of the base.
If you are asking if you will go to the brig then the answer is no, you will go to a reg federal court and prison that the marshalls control
The reason I say that is because you don't have to salute, you can be charged with conduct unbecoming and so on. There are many rules/laws that apply to only military persons because the law itself would only apply to people within the chain of command
You would be subject to the more common sense rules such as theft, murder violating security and so on.
Look at the signs as you enter the base they spell out what you are under while on a base.
ADDITION: I agree with the other that you will not go to a brig or a military court but you didn't ask about the justice system trial you said rules, I took that as meaning do the MP's CID have authority to arrest you and hold you to the rules of the base.
If you are asking if you will go to the brig then the answer is no, you will go to a reg federal court and prison that the marshalls control
No, they are turned into civilian authorities. While you are on a federal installation, you can fall under federal laws. If you are violating these laws, the mps or cid can arrest you and turn you over to the appropriate authorities and you can be tried but the trial would be in a civilian court. If you are in another country, the case may be different depending on the status of forces agreement for that particular country.
There is another interesting aspect to this. If you are a military dependent you can be banned from returning to the post. If you are overseas your husband's/father's/mother's/wife's commander can have you removed from post housing meaning that you would either have to pay for civilian housing off post or you go home. The same is true with on post housing stateside.
There is another interesting aspect to this. If you are a military dependent you can be banned from returning to the post. If you are overseas your husband's/father's/mother's/wife's commander can have you removed from post housing meaning that you would either have to pay for civilian housing off post or you go home. The same is true with on post housing stateside.
dark_assassin69
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That depends. If the person is a DOD civilian as in employed by the department of defense then yes, they would be subject to parts of the UCMJ but not all. However, when civilians are apprehended by military officials they are generally sent to civilian authorities unless they are under investigation for a crime on a military installation.
The Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) only applies to military personnel on or off a base. While on a base a civilian can be detained and arrested if they violate the rules or laws that apply to everyone ie: DO NOT ENTER, AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY, etc. These crimes would be held in a federal court house, since all crimes committed on a military installation fall under the federal government. Violation of laws (speed limits) would result in you getting a ticket and the military person that signed or vouched for you to enter the base being disciplined. If you are on the base for business, then you will be sent to a district court for fines, etc. So, the answer is generally, yes if the rules are not solely military related.