Does anyone know if police have to follow the law the same as every one else...even

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while on duty? Just curious because I know that I can't legally shoot someone dead just because they are acting crazy and have a knife...unless I feel my life is in immediate danger.

But I see on the news that cops shoot people only wielding a knife all the time...how can this be legal?

As far as I know, even the rules of engagement in war require a soldier to be fired upon before firing.
 
i know for a fact that they HAVE to use a hand held phone in the car instead of a headset
 
Yes they have to follow the law. As legal enforcers of the law, though, they are required to apprehend those who break the law. As a private citizen you aren't. So if you see someone wielding a knife then you don't have to confront them. The police officer doesn't have that option, usually. So the knife wielder becomes a real threat to their safety, and if that person refuses to yield their weapon then the only way to apprehend them is to force them to yield it, which might mean shooting them.
 
Let me ask you this, "If the cops don't follow the laws of society, who do you think is going to arrest them?"
 
"Only wielding a knife" doesn't really reflect how dangerous a knife can be.

If someone crazy comes at you with a knife, and you have a gun, shoot them, you're in immediate danger.

Police have to follow their department's use of force policy and most US law enforcement agencies use pretty much the same rules.

Most police have a club of some type and a gun. Only a stupid macho cop would try to take on someone with a knife with their club, so they go to the next level of force, their gun.

If they have a taser or something else, it is a better alternative when you're dealing with a hand to hand situation, but a lot of departments don't have non-lethal alternatives.

In terms of the general question, the answer is no, we give police special exemptions to some laws in order to respond to emergencies and maintain order.

Do some take advantage of it - absolutely and they suck, but 95% don't, unfortunately, like many things, the 5% give the rest a bad reputation.
 
Well they are supposed to but they normally dont ive seen it to many times.

they think they are superior.

they do not wear seat belts

they run red lights for no reason

they make illegal turns

they are pigs
 
hello, yes of course the police have to follow state laws both while on the clock and in their personal lives. a police officer is required in some states to carry a weapon off duty as well and intervene if they witness crime occurring. but as far as cops shooting people or using deadly force which is what your talking about, they do have to follow laws and policy and procedures governing the use of force laws etc. as far as seeing cops on the news killing people with knives etc and wondering how this can be legal etc, is a complex question. I think that every situation is very different, each case is complex and the circumstances are very unique. in other words, each case is totally different, and tyically the test that is usually met for each cop is that at that point in time did he or she feel that his or a citizens life seem to be threatened? in other words, did the officer feel that his or someone elses life seem to be in danger? this test is usually all that is needed in using deadly force etc. a lot of other factors weigh in on whether someone uses deadly force and the media will leave this out of the news etc. the officers experience, and circumstances at the time of deadly force all play into things. the officer may have prior knowledge of this person, the person may have a history of violence? he may be a mental, he may be on drugs, alcohol? he may have a history of trying to kill police officers etc. one has to remember that the cops decision to use force are based on the cops total experiences, his training, policies procedures, state laws, and these things may differ in each state... in other words, a cop may have used deadly force in a situation where the person reached in his or her pants in what was percieved as reaching for a deadly weapon. lets say the cop fires, killing the suspect, but it turns out that the deadly weapon was simply a nickel plated kids cap gun? so does that mean that the cop is totally wrong and should go to jail? does that meant that the cop should lose his job? does that mean that the suspects family will be entitled to compensation and they should sue the cops? well it all goes back to what they call the test of reasonableness. what does that mean? well, we are human, so are cops, right? and at the time of incident, the suspect disregards all verbal commands by the police officer, the officer also knows that this person has a history of carrying a weapon etc., so ya see the circumstances change the picture here. the suspect could have complied with the officers and one wonders why the suspect does not comply, and when he reaches in his pants etc, one with experience and training may feel that his life is in danger and therefore he may tell the suspect to show him his hands etc but he refused etc. so if you wait too long, he may produce a weapon and kill you or an innocent bystander. i mean imagine if you allow the dude to reach in his pants then he pulls a real weapon, and fires killing a 9yr old innocent child thats standing by etc.? imagine if her fires and the indiscriminant bullet stikes the pregnant women whose rolling down the road exercising etc... ya see, then the tables turn as people will say he man!!! why didnt that cop shoot that dude! if the cop saw him reach in his pants and he refused to listen to him then why did the guy even get the gun out in the first place etc. as you see, circumstances, the law, policies and procedures, the years of training and experience all play into whether a REASONABLE person would do the same thing under the same circumstances.. the question is what is reasonable! common sense prevails..
 
Police is supposed to follow the same rules. I don't know what you have seen, but nowadays when the police fires his/her gun for no reason, and it somehow gets to be on tape, it creates quite a stir.

I'm not saying they don't ever do it. They just aren't allowed. I'm sure a lot of cops, especially in big cities, abuse their power.
 
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