Do you believe that a small portion of SS should be privatized?

That's ridiculous. You assume that they all voted for that reason. That statement by you is just as crediblie as your previous ones, meaning completely and fundementalyl without any proof or evidence whatsoever.
 
the only real problem I see with this approach is that the people who most need their social security are also the ones who rather obviously do not posess the skills or intellignece to make good decisions in equity investment.

Face it, if you were worth a damn at picking stocks, you would not need social security.
 
Nonsense, both your statement and your suggestion. The 61 million people you refer to, facing a choice between dumb and dumber, made a hard choice based on many factors, and you have no idea how many supported his Iraq adventure then or now. The most recent CNN/USA Today/Galllup poll shows that 54% disagree with the way Dubya is handling his Iraq mess, and indications are the number is rising.
Dono
 
Still... I don`t pay much attention to the voting recorRAB or actions of US senators... Not even if it`s highly publicised. I don`t regulary watch, or read american news. Most of my "experience" of US politics comes either from textbooks, online forum discussions or Jay Leno (with a couple of weeks delay.. funny how that works...). I`m still interested in a link, or at least a link to an article that mentions the whole thing. You don`t have to have the exact quote, but if it was a big deal in the US, surely, there would be webpages and articles about it on the net, no?
 
Most of President Bush's political belief are Conservative......About the only ones that are not are Immigration and spending..........

All of Kerry's political beliefs are Liberal......
 
We have a problem already with this argument.

Voice of Treason is using a term he doesn't understand, nor has he taken any effort to define a word that has litterally millions of definitions.

Therefore, you, me anyone can call anything liberal and it is true, merely because there isn't a accepted definition and we can make it mean anything we want.

As for conservative Democrats, this may blow you mind if understand conservatism, but Dean has many of the aspects of a social and fisical conservative. Of course that doesn't mean he's personally a maniac, I won't deny that, but his political stances are middle, heavy right.

Zell Miller?

Does Look conservative to you?

Where is John Breax voting record?

Eddie: don't count on VOR to proving anything he says.
 
Investing part of your SS money in the stock market is IMO absolutely insane.
When the babyboomers start retiring they will withdraw their money from the stock market, which means the market will go down, not up. The days of 6% yearly growth for the S&P 500 will be over.
 
Does anyone here even know what a liberal and conservative are?

Due is right that a republican is not a conservative and a democrat is not a liberal...

Conservative is more or less someone resistent to change

Liberal would be the opposite..wanting change, reform, what not.

However these defintions are never used today so now liberal means more government control and conservative means less government control.

Republicans want more government control for "social" life and less for "economic" stuff.

Democrats want more government stuff for "economic" stuff (such as pollution control" and less restrictions on "social" life....in theory.

How it really works out....

Republicans say...I think green beans are good for you....So without even finding out if this is false or not Democrats say "thats so wrong, they cause cancer, they are beefing up Big Green Bean industries, grean beans are bad for you"....Democrats say the next year "dumping 6 billion lbs of animal by-products is killing off everything and giving people cancer"...the Republicans respond with "this is more radical liberal talk, there is no problem"

In short: they each just take the opposite of what the other says.
 
Yes.

Conservative has a number of subsets.

Fisically conservative is a ideology that is aganist wasteful, unneeded spending, and in the end making enRAB meet. That doesn't mean they are for or aganist tax cuts or tax hikes as a absolute.

Social conservative is one who is aganist rapid change. Maintain the status quo, or at least something close to it. However, social conservatism is not aganist change.

Conservatism dealing with government is clear quite. Basically little government, no interference in the personal lives of it citizens and state's rights.

Conservatism in foregin policy, during the past 50 years has never supported serious "adventures" in the world. Also, conservatism has nothing to do with abortion or the death penalty. Those are two very republican notions.

Liberalism, that is more in question. Many defintions exist.

Classical liberalism is two worRAB: equal opportunity. In some ways, conservatism has adopted that into its ideology. That isn't liberalism today at all.

Liberalism usually favors bigger government, more govermnet regulation, advancement of equal rights.

Fisically liberal, well, that is basically the opposite of fisically conserative, with lots of unnecessary spending.

What I'd like to know is what VOR thinks conservatism and liberalism are.
 
You have to be kidding me:

Kerry, pro abortion, Gay Marriage, Anti Military and Iraq War (He voted against the funding supporting the troops) Just to name a few........

The problem with your boy Kerry is that he flip flopped so often on the issues that it was really hard to tell where he stood on any issue........

There was a Non-partisan group that came out that said that Kerry's voting record was the most liberal in the Senate and that he voted 96.5 percent of the time as a liberal even further to the left then Kennedy and I did not think that was possible...........
 
Yeah, actually he looks pretty conservative to me.

# Pro-life.
# Promote and fund sexual abstinence programs. (Jan 1997)
# Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
# Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
# Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
# Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
# Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
# Rated 25% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
# Vetoes 104 line items, $37M, of
 
Boy, you Republicans sure love Lieberman for some reason.
He never had a chance.


There is no FSLIC.

I think the new insurance is under SAIF or something like that.

BTW - How is one LYING by saying they support the troops but don't support their mission?
 
I disagree when it come to Buchanan.........I think he is a hard core neo con although I agree with him on a lot of issues....We do part company on invading Iraq though............
 
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