I asked this last night but it seemed no one was around, so I deleted and reposted (sorry to those contacts who got the email).
An answer yesterday plus a chapter in Jean Donaldson's Culture Clash also got me thinking about this ( I have never loved and hated a book so much in my life. There are whole sections I want to copy and paste to some of these questions and answers, yet so much I disliked, not because I disagreed with but she made sweeping generalizations about large groups and weak arguments)
Do dogs have a desire to please us?
Why or why not?
How do you know when the dog is trying to please us instead of avoiding aversives or trying to earn a reward?
Does one training method produce a dog that is "happier" or more willing to perform commands for YOU (note, not when reward is offered if that is how you train, I am referring to once the behavior is learned and expected to be performed when asked)?
Can you tell the difference in willingness to perform between a dog trained with corrections and a dog trained with treats, assuming neither the treats nor the correction are used during the command?
If you are interested, an article by Jean on the top 10 dog myths
http://www.dogsincanada.com/fairy-tales-the-top-10-dog-behaviour-myths
As usual, no TDs will be from me.
This is not a "question" I already have an answer to, I am genuinely looking for different perspectives.
The last question, about the seeing the difference between two dogs trained different ways, was inspired by an answer that said they can teach a dog to sit, but they want the dog to do it happily.
So I am trying to figure out the difference. Is there?
An answer yesterday plus a chapter in Jean Donaldson's Culture Clash also got me thinking about this ( I have never loved and hated a book so much in my life. There are whole sections I want to copy and paste to some of these questions and answers, yet so much I disliked, not because I disagreed with but she made sweeping generalizations about large groups and weak arguments)
Do dogs have a desire to please us?
Why or why not?
How do you know when the dog is trying to please us instead of avoiding aversives or trying to earn a reward?
Does one training method produce a dog that is "happier" or more willing to perform commands for YOU (note, not when reward is offered if that is how you train, I am referring to once the behavior is learned and expected to be performed when asked)?
Can you tell the difference in willingness to perform between a dog trained with corrections and a dog trained with treats, assuming neither the treats nor the correction are used during the command?
If you are interested, an article by Jean on the top 10 dog myths
http://www.dogsincanada.com/fairy-tales-the-top-10-dog-behaviour-myths
As usual, no TDs will be from me.
This is not a "question" I already have an answer to, I am genuinely looking for different perspectives.
The last question, about the seeing the difference between two dogs trained different ways, was inspired by an answer that said they can teach a dog to sit, but they want the dog to do it happily.
So I am trying to figure out the difference. Is there?