Direct Downloads vs Newsgroups

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crusher44x

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You could download them and upload them? There's a thought.

Usenet is by overall the king at content. There's plenty of old stuff out there, just use a search engine.

Have you even looked in our index?
 
Being new to newsgroups and all, I'm curious what their advantages are over direct downloads. I've been downloading from direct downloads for quite awhile, and i can say that I've gotten lucky since I have never had premium with any service but have gotten fast speeds nevertheless (except for rapidshit, I hate that service with a passion but often find myself downloading from it). Currently, free ipv6 is treating me rather well but unfortunately I have not been able to find the same wealth of content that is offered through direct downloads, especially foreign material.

So I'm looking for feedback in a mainly these areas:

uploading
security (not getting caught)
downloading
ease of use
expense
content

Feel free to add to this list and comment as you wish!
 
Sonnentier said:
How does SSL protect you from legal action? I doubt they wiretap you, would rather demand information from the newsprovider.
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It's just one less "dibby dobber" to worry about. Let me put it simple:

If I go to the shop, when I should be a work and talk to a few people along the way that's not SSL, but if I just go straight to the shop that is SSL :wacko:

I don't this a Usenet provider will give out personal information so easily :shutup:
 
Well I probably wont upload anything until I get an actual newsprovider with SSL

yep I def checked out the index, thanks for all the stuff u posted, but I dunno I've tried quite a few search engines. . .
 
uploading - Not even a contest , newsgroups much secure , all hosting sites will keep logs of your IP
security (not getting caught) - Almost same , ISP's dont usually resort to http packet snooping etc , both are much safer than torrents
downloading - Without premium , usenet , else ddl's
ease of use - ddl's
expense - usenet is cheaper if your usage is more than what rapidshare etc allow
content - ddl's
 
beansis said:
Well I probably wont upload anything until I get an actual newsprovider with SSL

yep I def checked out the index, thanks for all the stuff u posted, but I dunno I've tried quite a few search engines. . .
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Some ISP's bundle Usenet with their plans. Be careful to see if it includes binaries and not just text.
 
Wait so are you guys saying that if I use JBin Up
I dont need to have an usenet provider that offers SSL encryption to actually upload using an SSL encrypted connection??? That doesn't sound right, especially since all I have is free ipv6
 
"direct downloads", in the past that was linking to demos/dead spaces, now it's pointing at rapidshare...

And maybe that is one of their disadvantages, often associated with the script kiddie type of business.

manu1991 said:
uploading - Not even a contest , newsgroups much secure
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Well I do not agree there is no contest, many usp will trace uploads and you might also get into trouble if you were publishing over their systems. Anyway what you can do is to insert files using a service with favorable policys, due to usenet's structure content will then be copied to all the other servers.

Newsgroups feature the possibility to globally search for and find files while file hosting leans against web based catalogues.
Also there are plans for usenet offering unlimited downloading while most file hosting sites have limits, so it really depends on your profile.
 
Usenet is far superior

Faster speeds
No ratios

What more do you want.

P.S. If your from the UK and have Virgin Media as your ISP you get free Usenet access

Only downside is that the retention is only 7 days.
 
beansis said:
Wait so are you guys saying that if I use JBin Up
I dont need to have an usenet provider that offers SSL encryption to actually upload using an SSL encrypted connection??? That doesn't sound right, especially since all I have is free ipv6
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If you want to upload, I'd suggest getting a non-expiring block acct (with SSL) from somewhere like usenetnews (cheapest is 2gb for $2), and use that just for uploading. It will never expire and you can upload as much as you want. Also, in the rare even your posts are flagged for takedown or something and usenetnews wants to take "action" all you will lose is the block acct. You can then go get another from somewhere else.
 
uploading - DDL, you have to read about uploading on Newsgroups, and thus might be hard for some.

security - Both are ok, Only a small amount of DDL providers support SSL, however most Usenet support SSL

downloading - Usenet

ease of use - Both are easy to setup but DDL sites don't need various apps eg. Binary grabber, par repairer etc.

expense - Usenet in the long run

content - DDL, Usenet is mostly for scene pres and high end p2p releases. DDL sites cater for scene/p2p releases.

I should not that it depends on the DDL site too. eg. tehPARADOX's security is much higher than say PSPiSO.
 
beansis said:
Well I probably wont upload anything until I get an actual newsprovider with SSL

yep I def checked out the index, thanks for all the stuff u posted, but I dunno I've tried quite a few search engines. . .
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When you do have a look at JbinUp it is a usenet uploader that supports SSL uploading straight out of the box, no other software or setups needed to achieve it.
Code: 
http://www.jbinup.com/en/
 
EyeBaller said:
If you want to upload, I'd suggest getting a non-expiring block acct (with SSL) from somewhere like usenetnews (cheapest is 2gb for $2), and use that just for uploading. It will never expire and you can upload as much as you want. Also, in the rare even your posts are flagged for takedown or something and usenetnews wants to take "action" all you will lose is the block acct. You can then go get another from somewhere else.
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Sounds like a good idea. . .:shifty:
 
rippinitup4fun said:
When you do have a look at JbinUp it is a usenet uploader that supports SSL uploading straight out of the box, no other software or setups needed to achieve it.
Code: 
http://www.jbinup.com/en/
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Except Java :frusty:. I love JBinUp though it's a good cross-platform alternative to PowerPost.
 
iLOVENZB said:
Ouch, honestly it's probably worth switching ISP's or buying for the service. My ISP (not in the UK) offers a 'Premium' usage from Astraweb of which the retention is at its highest.

Previously they had the option to chose between Astraweb and Giganews :w00t:
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I aint saying anything bad about the service

They are the best in the UK in my opinion

and i think no other ISP in the UK offer free usenet access

This is what they offer

-Unlimited Usage
-50 Connections

No SSL though!!!!

I pay AstraWeb for the service

Im on the UNLIMITED DSL Plan for 11$ a month

With my line i can download 30gb in a night so you do the math
So well worth the money in my opinion
 
i must admit that directdownloads has it all,but you must be
member of various forums to find stuff and if you dont have premium
accounts its takes time to leech even if you use jdownloader.
usenet is good for top 50 tv shows and its easy to search.
 
uploading: If you look in the right places you can get away without uploading anything.

security: Dunno, my guess is DDL since you dont pay them or leave any personal info.

downloading: DDLs require wait times and captchas and the speeds are usually capped to prevent abuse. usenet is always fast.

ease of use: Jdownloader is great for DDLs like RS and makes it simple, clicking around the web pages is not as fun. NZB requires a tiny bit more initial setup but works great and automatically after.

expense: Downloading NZBs will always cost a little money to get it done fast and uncapped.

content: Cant tell, they both offer tonnes of stuff.
 
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