Dinner tonight....Shepherd's Pie

On 24/02/2011 7:19 AM, Portland wrote:



People seem to be easily confused about shepherds, cowboys, sheep and
cows. Just look at the public reaction to the film Brokeback Mountain.
It was so controversial to have a movie about a gay love affair between
two cowboys. They weren't cowboys. They were shepherds, and people have
been cracking jokes about shepherds for years.
 
I_am_Tosk wrote:


Oh there are a few i am sure. Especially the chocolate, desert or
'savoury" souffles, they are quite popular in some more upscale
restaurants. But as far as the finicky French egg white souffles go
they are not a common, everyday home cooked occurrence in the USA.

But there are a number of MOCK "souffles" using whole eggs that i have
ran across here and there but even they are not all that common.

According to the 1965 edition of the Larousse Gastronomique "The same
name [souffle] has been extended to include quite different
preparations, more like mousses or mousselines, served both hot and cold."
--
JL
 
I_am_Tosk wrote in
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Souffle?? I made these for the very first time for Valentines Day
dinner...... easy, light, yet lovely and tasty.


http://www.taste.com.au/kitchen/recipes/emmental+cheese+souffle,13973


Pics are here........

http://tinyurl.com/4nm73wt



--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

"As we weep for what we have lost, and as we grieve for family and friends
and we confront the challenge that is before us, I want us to remember who
we are.

We are Queenslanders.

We're the people that they breed tough, north of the border.

We're the ones that they knock down, and we get up again."
 
On 24/02/2011 11:08 AM, sf wrote:


My mother made it with beef and called it Shepherd's pie. Not only
that,she used leftover roast beef, not fresh ground. It was not until
this topic was discussed here about a year that I learned that
Shepherd's pie traditionally used lamb and that if beef is used it is
called Cottage pie.

Curiously, at that time, references all supported that, and it appears
that the Wikipedia article on Cottage pie was altered on just a few days
ago,


I realize that lots of people will only do enough research to find
something that supports their claim and will disregard any others. I
did searches for both Cottage pie and Shepherds pie and it I found an
incredible variety of recipes and views on the beef/lamb issue. While
some say that Shepherds pie is made with beef, lots of them say lamb,
some say wither, some say it was traditionally lamb, some say it was
cottage pie and when lamb was used they changed it to shepherd's pie.
One said that it used leftover meat.... which is what I was how I
remembered it as a kid.
 
In article , [email protected]
says...

Or someone who's life doesn't revolve around their perceived culinary
awareness;)

My mom called beef Shepards pie, she called spaghetti o's with hamburger
American Chop suey, and she called the boiled chicken or rock hard cube
steak, dinner;)
 
sf wrote:



And was called "mock souffle" however if you look up the etymology of
souffle it is an appropriate term for the aforementioned recipe.

One can sufflare a cup of tea.

However many Americans call bread pudding

In your imagination perhaps, most americans don't use the term souffle
at all much less as a term for bread pudding.
--
JL
 
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:32:07 -0700, "graham" wrote:

Americans call either type Shepherd's Pie. I used to think it was
just me, but it's not.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:53:07 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:


My DD started off with lamb but used beef for some reason one time.
Her hubby didn't know she had changed the meat but he liked thought it
tasted better so that's the version she makes now.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
Dave Smith wrote:


leftover meat was also my understanding of its history.
Sort of like how Bubble & Squeak (a childhood favorite of mine) was
traditionally a way to use those Sunday leftovers of cabbage and potatoes.
 
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:56:09 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:


Me too. I actually had to *find* a recipe for Tosk.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:18:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
wrote:

It's not a regionalism either.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:55:21 -0000, Janet wrote:

Thanks.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
Julie Bove wrote:

So you're okay with continued ignorance? I mean, once you learn
something you have no problem continuing on with inaccuracies?
You probably think "high tea" is some fancy repast too, eh?
 
"Goomba" wrote in message
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So because *you* say it and because some snooty British guy on a cooking
website say it, it makes it so? I did look it up on Wikipedia. It gave the
history of it. Yes, I know Wikipedia is not necessarily considered to be an
expert. I could look elsewhere. But I'm not gonna.

Sort of like the inane argument I got into on another newsgroup about what a
casserole was. Here in America it is usually some form of protein, a starch
and a cream soup, gravy or some other form of sauce, often topped with
crumbs of some kind or crushed potato chips. He said the term casserole
simply meant baked in the oven.

Again, whatever. Hardly worth fightiing over. If you don't like what I
call it, don't eat at my house! Oh that's right! You don't anyway...
 
On 25/02/2011 1:57 PM, Goomba wrote:

There is also the matter of the leftover joint, which in much of the UK
might be more likely to be mutton than beef.
 
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