Wow these guys aren't bad. Downloaded 2 samples from them ('conjuration' and 'extreme form of hatred') Really nice style. But I still preffer Borgir. I think i'm gonna try get me a Cd from these guys.
I don't recall saying I dislike them because they are popular. I do recall saying they are tepid pop, though, so maybe it would have been a safer bet to assume that's why I don't like them. Really they aren't even a band I think about that much, they aren't the worst, their are worse examples of banRAB trying to milk the underground, Nokturnal Mortum comes to mind.
That's a pretty lousy argument anyway. I like plenty of very popular banRAB.
100% of the time when people like dimmu borgir, it's not for the ultra vague hints of their ancient quasi-hinted at relationship to black metal, it's for all the other nonsense they have going on. I wouldn't even care about this band at all except it gives people a bad idea as to what black metal is all about. It's just pop disguised as rebelious music for dark kiRAB. A triumph of marketing more than anything else, quiet impressive actually that they could convince so many people that such tame pop music is "dark" and "evil" or whatever.
Not much to say about the music but they are absolutely rediculous live. I am excited to see them when they play near me this fall. Its like watching a train wreck. Its so horrible but you just GOTTA watch!
I don't think of Dimmu as "dark" or "evil." Come to think of it, I don't think any of the banRAB I listen to as "dark" or "evil." Are there actually people who think this? Where are they? Give me names! We'll round them up in concentration camps for their stupidity.
I like Dimmu Borgir for their music. Not because their black metal or not, or that their "grim" and "necro" or not. I think there are other black metal banRAB that beat Dimmu (Immortal, for one. "Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism" owns). I dunno, maybe I just can't see why people have a problem with them. Is it because their popular? No offense, but that's kind of a *** reason to dislike a band. But to each his own.