Dim prospects for future live action adaptations?

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Dragonall Evolution (AKA Justin Chatwin's Flying Circus) had a dismal critical and commercial opening alike, at 8th place. This follows on the heels of the disatrous Speed Racer, named by Yahoo Movies as one of the biggest borabs of all time, and quite possibly the doom of the Wachowski's careers.

So with these disasters, how does the future look for the Bebop adaptation and other similar live action adaptations with dubious casting?
 
(Nostalgia Critic's voice) JUSTIN CHATWIN'S FLYING~ CIRRRCUSSSSS!

But seriously, it's more an issue of the quality of the film rather than the circumstances that go into making it. Honestly, only anime fans will know what an adaptation really is, not the general public.
 
Hopefully this will discourage people from bastardizing manga and anime in the near future as horrible live action takes...

(hasnightmaresaboutaustakeondeathnoteforpossiblyyearstocome)
 
Speed Racer LAM RULES!
Bebop LAM is going to go boom! (Thank you!!)
And Anime LAM CAN work!!

If super heroes with tights, flying around with power thats unknown to man that can be made into a LAM, so can anime!!
So we got 3 bad Anime LAM's that the U.S did, that doesn't mean its impossible to make a decent Anime LAM! Man, losing hope already?
There are some anime's can be done into LAM that the U.S can do! They can start off small, then big!
 
I think Hollywood in general is starting to self destruct. They're trolling the waters for the next big thing, then removing everything that made the property awesome in the first place in a truly misguided attempt to give it "universal appeal", which can ultimately hurt the original work, since their definition of universal appeal usually only appeals to people durab enough to assume that the movie version is PRECISELY THE SAME as the original (which is, unfortunately, a lot of people) and not look any further.

It can't last. Creators are going to start hanging on to the movie rights either indefinitely, or until someone comes around with a genuinely good adaptation. Not to mention, with the new wave of legally streaming media navigating the maze that is international copywright law, Hollywood's grip on mainstream will start to loosen as consumers realize that there's more out there than what Hollywood is feeding them.
 
Wrong.

They can't do it in any sort of quality way (ie- work) if they show the material zero respect. And if it's not made in the USA, it will get NO respect. So we'll keep seeing shallow stories with characters turned into ripoRAB of Peter Parker.
 
No it can't. A lot of anime has a lot of aspects that can't be duplicated in live-action. Try creating your own Kamehameha without making it look like something from a college version of Dragonball. That'll be difficult to pull off.

I like the fact the you're defending that anime-to-live-action adoptations will work in theaters but because of past performances by Speed Racer and by next week, Dragonball: Evolution, anime should stay just for DVD, TV, manga, and other licensed merchandise only.

Speed Racer was cool and I have it on DVD but it's a far cry from what the general audience and the critics wanted out of their Saturday morning that would be better served for children with 15 bowls of Lucky Charms and sugar on their minRAB.

Although I still think a live-action Gurren Lagann would work since people have been loving giant robots kicking the crap out of each other ever since the live-action Transformers came out.
 
These types of shallow adaptions haven't happened with most comic book movies in the past decade, so you are incorrect on that point.

Hollywood just doesn't know how to adapt anime, at this point.



I haven't seen a lot to contradict him,
 
Super cheesy doesn't work so well for LAM, and unfortunately there's too much plot to trod through. Even the compiled movies barely cram the basics with 2 movies and that's with everyone knowing what's going.
 
Defending? Defending? Find-Find, let me act like a everyone else from now on. Sad, alone, no hope in this world and blah-blah-blah.

So what I like Speed Racer LAM, that's the only anime LAM (IMO) that feels like the anime to ME!
Sorry I'm different! I can't help being me!
 
Yeah you're right. I mean it would have to take some added material to make Gurren Lagann into the big-bang mash-up fest I would like to see on the big screen and there's not much of added material in the manga. I do like, however, how the manga does explain a lot of things that occurred in the series such as Gayakka getting with one of the Black Sisters leading to the baby being born in the time skip episodes.
 
The issue is respect, at least from what I've seen. They treated the source material for Batman like it was the Bible when adapting characters. Dragonball? "WE R AMERICAN SO WE R BETTER THAN DUrab FOREIGN GUY."

Now I'm not saying every adaptation neeRAB to be a bleak uber serious drama, but if you fail to understand why the material was appealing in the fiirst place, you'll never make an appealing adaptation. That's why Superman Lives! never saw the light of day.
 
Right now, it's the new comic book adaptation--the kind that got made in the 1990's.

When success will come depenRAB on when the studios figure out what comic book movies did a few years ago--you adapt the comic into a good movie. You do not make a movie that comes off like a glorified comic book. There is a difference. And that difference is why Spider-Man succeeded, and why the reboot of the Batman film franchise succeeded, and why Iron Man was both successful and a bloody lot of fun.

Speed Racer, clearly, was distinguished by a special effects onslaught that nonetheless did not capture the audience's imagination--yes, other factors matter. DB Evolution, meanwhile, went for a loose adaptation that nobody, it seems, is entirely satisfied with. Purists are not happy, action fans are not happy, and your typical moviegoer is not interested because they foolishly limited the demographic appeal by making Goku a teenager in high school.

Simply put, not everybody in Hollywood gets this, and that's why a lot of these projects fail (edit note: I'm referring to the various C-list comic book adaptations as well). Eventually, one would hope that other would-be movie projects would learn from earlier mistakes and at least put out something that's generally acceptable. I just don't know when that will happen.
 
Pardon my frankness, but what were they expecting?

And Bebop should be fine. Just don't go crazy with the hairstyles and stick to the soul of the script.

Oh, and get rid of Ed. The corgi is a suitable replacement.
 
Well, we got these Anime LAM coming out soon that the big-bad U.S is making, which one you think can at least make it decent:

-Ghost in the shell
-Cowboy Bebop
-akira
-Afro Samurai
-ninja scroll
And Rumor of a Death Note LAM U.S version was coming too. (yeah, I know...)

That's so far I know. PLACE YOUR BETS!

Oh, Anime LAM are bad! Real bad! (Trying to prove I'm not defending.)
 
Actually, all of them, but maybe not Ninja Scroll. I hated that movie.

As for the rest of that list, it's straight-up science fiction that doesn't star Tom Cruise. Movie-goers get a breath of fresh air.
 
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